What are your failure rate at ripping Blu-rays?

[kaister]

I just started getting into Blu-ray ripping. And I've been on a frenzy, ripping whatever I can get my hands on...lol

I want to see what are other people's experiences on how successfully they are at ripping blu-ray. And throw in a little info on your setup.

I've probably done over 100 discs so far, with a combination of mostly Blu-rays with a 10-20 DVDs...and so far I want to say my failure rate is about a dozen or so...I'll say around 13%. Of those that failed, it's mainly scratches and damages (maybe 65%) and the rest is like relatively damage free. Based on what I'm reading, I assume it's due to imperfection in the disc mastering process.

I have use a combination of 4 drives: WH16NS40, 43890 with UD03, BDR-212V, and a 43888 with BU40N...on 4 different Macs (2 2015 macbook/pro, 1 2019 imac, and a m1 macbook pro). I find the WH16NS40 to be the least reliable but also the fastest and nosiest (my god it's loud). The UD03 and 212V picked up some disc that's not rippable on the WH16NS40. Of the two surprisingly I find the UD03 but be not as sensitive to imperfection as the 212V. It's weird I'm not sure if it's just the drive I have. And surprisingly the BU40N picks up quite a bit too and managed to rip one disc that the 212V fails. However the BU40N also failed to rip a few disc the WH16NS40 failed at. So it's literally in between the WH16NS40 and the two pioneer drives.

[dcoke22]

Your post is a good reminder to people that the same disc in a different drive can sometimes produce different results.

Before long you'll be asking about which NAS to buy and how hard is it to get 100TB of available storage.

[PippyOG]

So far I’ve had 100% success rate but also fairly new at all this.

[BrettTheRipper]

That's a great question, and in hindsight, I wish I had kept statistics because I find myself wondering about my own failure rate. I'm also relatively new at this, but since last November, I've ripped about 600 movies (mostly 2K Blu-Ray) and 50 television series (mostly DVDs). My best guess is that I've been about 95-98% successful on first attempts and had a 99.5% success rate after multiple tries that typically involved using a different drive, though multiple attempts on the same drive sometimes worked.

I have two LG BP50NB40s, which are my workhorses that usually succeed. I prefer to wear them out because they were cheap, but when they fail, I use the Panasonic BDR-S13UBK that I bought from Billy, and between those two models, I've almost always been successful. I've run into more problems with DVDs than with Blu-Rays, though that may be due to age. However, I've always taken good care of my disks, and few, if any, errors could be attributed to visible (e.g., smudges or scratches) problems. Also, I've occasionally had brand-new Blu-Rays purchased from a big-box retailer produce errors, so I suspect most of the problems were caused by manufacturing defects unrelated to my drives or handling of the disks.

I've also sometimes had DVDs cause a grinding noise in one or both BP50NB40 drives, and when that happens, the drive usually stops spinning. I assume that occurs when the disks are warped (though I can't detect that visually) and the drive senses that the disk isn't spinning at an acceptable rate. However, in those cases I was always able to read the disk using my BDR-S13UBK, and it never produced the grinding effect. Conversely, in at least one case, I had a disk that generated errors on the BDR-S13UBK, but a BP50NB40 was able to read it, so it's not as simple as saying I've had more luck with the Panasonic than the LGs.

[kaister]

Your post is a good reminder to people that the same disc in a different drive can sometimes produce different results.

Before long you'll be asking about which NAS to buy and how hard is it to get 100TB of available storage.

Lol...funny you mentioned that. I've already at 10TB worth of rip and already scratching my head over storage issue. I just bought an 20TB external hard drive to hold me over until I can build a dedicated NAS to store everything. But it's pricey and takes time...and I'm slowing down on ripping anyways so not a huge priority but something I need to tackle soon.

The other thing I'm dealing with. Hunting for various Blu-ray. I'm trying to get 4K as much as possible. I'm into 3 main thing...old classics, sci-fi cult film, and cartoons...I'm still trying to figure out what's the best way for me to buy blu-rays. I've purchase much more now then I have before ripping my blu-rays.

[dcoke22]

The other thing I'm dealing with. Hunting for various Blu-ray. I'm trying to get 4K as much as possible. I'm into 3 main thing...old classics, sci-fi cult film, and cartoons...I'm still trying to figure out what's the best way for me to buy blu-rays. I've purchase much more now then I have before ripping my blu-rays.

Pawn shops often have a collection of blu-rays and they're often quite cheap. My local Pawn America has blu-rays they sell for $3 each. The selection is limited to whatever is in the store at the time of course. I've been to places like Half Price Books with a decent used blu-ray collection as well.

As for 4K, my own personal preference is to avoid 4K for movies that are upscaled to 4k. blu-ray.com usually lists if a 4K title is 4K native or upscaled. There's more to 4K than just resolution of course, and perhaps for some titles it is worth it, especially if the blu-ray release is substandard in some way. The space requirements for 4K rips are non-trivial, so this rule of thumb generally helps keep my space needs under some sort of control.

[belze]

I used to rip only DVDs and Blu-Rays on an external LG BP40NB30 and never had any issues, but now I also got myself an ASUS BC-12D2HT I flashed to 3.11 MK for UHD Blu-Rays and the 3 discs (1x 3-Layer, 2x 2-Layer) I ripped worked great.

[kaister]

As for 4K, my own personal preference is to avoid 4K for movies that are upscaled to 4k. blu-ray.com usually lists if a 4K title is 4K native or upscaled. There's more to 4K than just resolution of course, and perhaps for some titles it is worth it, especially if the blu-ray release is substandard in some way. The space requirements for 4K rips are non-trivial, so this rule of thumb generally helps keep my space needs under some sort of control.

Oh wow. Thanks for the info. I only have a small 4k collection, like a bunch Disney movie and a few random titles. How do you use that site? Do you just search for a title and read up what other people say about it?

[drxenos]

My blu-rays number in the several thousands. My failure rates is much less than 1% (maybe a dozen or so discs).

I like to keep several blu-ray drives of different brands in my ripping machine (I realize that internally many brands are the same). I notices that there are some discs/drives that just do not like each other for whatever reason. I've had discs from boxed sets that will not spin up in one drive, but work fine in all the others (and another time, it will be a different boxed set and drive). I don't know why this is.

I've had a lot of discs that fail to rip because of errors. More often than not, just putting them in a different drive will solve the problem. If that fails, a good cleaning often works.

I like to use a staged response to ripping errors. The amount of effort I put into it is proportional to the cost of the disc and the possibility of getting a replacement. Also, unlike DVDs, don't try to resurface or buff them. Blu-rays have an anti-scratch coating you don't want to damage.
1. Try a different drive.
2. Wipe with microfiber cloth.
3. Clean with a high % isopropyl alcohol.
4. Clean with mild soap and water. Do not use soap with pumice in it (e.g., most bar hand soap).
5. Let ripper retry on errors. If it continues after a few tries, golden.
6. Try a different ripping tool (I've rarely, if ever had success doing this, but it's worth a try).
7. Get replacement, if possible.

I've read a lot of weird things people have done to get a disc to read, but I think the common denominator was cleaning it.

[dcoke22]

Oh wow. Thanks for the info. I only have a small 4k collection, like a bunch Disney movie and a few random titles. How do you use that site? Do you just search for a title and read up what other people say about it?

Just search and read the info posted about it.
For example: Finding Nemo (2003) 4K release from 2019 it lists as upscaled with the HDR10 kind of HDR.
Inside Out 2 (2024) 4K release it lists as Native 4K with the HDR10 kind of HDR.

[kaister]

My blu-rays number in the several thousands. My failure rates is much less than 1% (maybe a dozen or so discs).

I like to keep several blu-ray drives of different brands in my ripping machine (I realize that internally many brands are the same). I notices that there are some discs/drives that just do not like each other for whatever reason. I've had discs from boxed sets that will not spin up in one drive, but work fine in all the others (and another time, it will be a different boxed set and drive). I don't know why this is.

I've had a lot of discs that fail to rip because of errors. More often than not, just putting them in a different drive will solve the problem. If that fails, a good cleaning often works.

I like to use a staged response to ripping errors. The amount of effort I put into it is proportional to the cost of the disc and the possibility of getting a replacement. Also, unlike DVDs, don't try to resurface or buff them. Blu-rays have an anti-scratch coating you don't want to damage.
1. Try a different drive.
2. Wipe with microfiber cloth.
3. Clean with a high % isopropyl alcohol.
4. Clean with mild soap and water. Do not use soap with pumice in it (e.g., most bar hand soap).
5. Let ripper retry on errors. If it continues after a few tries, golden.
6. Try a different ripping tool (I've rarely, if ever had success doing this, but it's worth a try).
7. Get replacement, if possible.

I've read a lot of weird things people have done to get a disc to read, but I think the common denominator was cleaning it.

Ah nice thanks for the tips.

Curious what kind of drives do you have?

I've been testing out a few drives recently but so far I've kept the pioneer-212v, 43888(ud04), and xd05. Did had an LG and 43888(with bu40n) earlier but returned them cause I felt like I'm hoarding drives at this rate lol.

[kaister]

Oh wow. Thanks for the info. I only have a small 4k collection, like a bunch Disney movie and a few random titles. How do you use that site? Do you just search for a title and read up what other people say about it?

Just search and read the info posted about it.
For example: Finding Nemo (2003) 4K release from 2019 it lists as upscaled with the HDR10 kind of HDR.
Inside Out 2 (2024) 4K release it lists as Native 4K with the HDR10 kind of HDR.

Ah I see it now. That's great, I'll definitely use this site as a reference whenever I'm looking for blu-rays.

[drxenos]

Ah nice thanks for the tips.

Curious what kind of drives do you have?

I've been testing out a few drives recently but so far I've kept the pioneer-212v, 43888(ud04), and xd05. Did had an LG and 43888(with bu40n) earlier but returned them cause I felt like I'm hoarding drives at this rate lol.

Pioneer BDR-S13UBK (UHD capable)
LITE-ON iHBS212-08
LG WH16NS40 (flashed for UHD)
LG WH16NS40 (unflashed)
ASUS BW-16D1X-U