Correct .mpls for The Shack (2016)

[bill2468]

MakeMKV showed one of the first mpls (0636) to be the "Main Feature." So I ripped it, compressed it with Handbrake, downloaded an "SRT" subtitle file from YIFY, played the movie and fast-forwarded to about 20 locations through out the movie and checked to see if the subtitles matched the dialog. They did so I am assuming that mpls 0636 is the correct one for the Redbox version that I have. Now, I just have to watch the video to see if it is correct through out.

[crzcnc_17]

I believe this is what you're looking for!!!
Title information
Name: The Shack (English)
Source file name: 00636.mpls
Duration: 2:12:19
Chapters count: 16
Size: 20.5 GB
Segment count: 20
Segment map: 519,518,502,510,517,508,507,512,511,504,513,501,516,506,503,509,515,514,520,505
File name: The_Shack_t258.mkv

[bretb]

Still no definitive answer on this thread, huh?
I sure wish that the process was foolproof and accurate in every situation. I have not been able to get the procedure for using process explorer to work correctly or consistently each time I've used it.

I remember someone saying that if an updated version of Java was also installed that MakeMKV would make a "best effort" attempt of locating the correct .mpls stream.
How is that function/feature activated?

[bretb]

I believe this is what you're looking for!!!
Title information
Name: The Shack (English)
Source file name: 00636.mpls
Duration: 2:12:19
Chapters count: 16
Size: 20.5 GB
Segment count: 20
Segment map: 519,518,502,510,517,508,507,512,511,504,513,501,516,506,503,509,515,514,520,505
File name: The_Shack_t258.mkv

There is no 00636.mpls on the Redbox disk. There is 00634.mpls and 00638.mpls, but no 00636.mpls.

[spas2k]

I believe this is what you're looking for!!!
Title information
Name: The Shack (English)
Source file name: 00636.mpls
Duration: 2:12:19
Chapters count: 16
Size: 20.5 GB
Segment count: 20
Segment map: 519,518,502,510,517,508,507,512,511,504,513,501,516,506,503,509,515,514,520,505
File name: The_Shack_t258.mkv

There is no 00636.mpls on the Redbox disk. There is 00634.mpls and 00638.mpls, but no 00636.mpls.

I have the redbox dvd, ripping right now and the 636 Track is on the top listed as the FPL_Mainfeature.

[bretb]

I believe this is what you're looking for!!!
Title information
Name: The Shack (English)
Source file name: 00636.mpls
Duration: 2:12:19
Chapters count: 16
Size: 20.5 GB
Segment count: 20
Segment map: 519,518,502,510,517,508,507,512,511,504,513,501,516,506,503,509,515,514,520,505
File name: The_Shack_t258.mkv

There is no 00636.mpls on the Redbox disk. There is 00634.mpls and 00638.mpls, but no 00636.mpls.

I have the redbox dvd, ripping right now and the 636 Track is on the top listed as the FPL_Mainfeature.

I have the RedBox Blu-Ray (not DVD) and there is no 00636.mpls stream on it. Only 634 and 638. I'll check again, but when I checked earlier this morning, I was pretty sure that was the case.

[crzcnc_17]

Does it start with 519? That's the one I got from using process monitor and fast forwarding through the movie

[JBravo]

There is no 00636.mpls on the Redbox disk. There is 00634.mpls and 00638.mpls, but no 00636.mpls.

I have the redbox dvd, ripping right now and the 636 Track is on the top listed as the FPL_Mainfeature.

I have the RedBox Blu-Ray (not DVD) and there is no 00636.mpls stream on it. Only 634 and 638. I'll check again, but when I checked earlier this morning, I was pretty sure that was the case.

Yes there is.
2nd one down from the top.
Makemkv moved it to the top and lists it as main feature since it's the correct playlist

[bretb]

I have the redbox dvd, ripping right now and the 636 Track is on the top listed as the FPL_Mainfeature.

I have the RedBox Blu-Ray (not DVD) and there is no 00636.mpls stream on it. Only 634 and 638. I'll check again, but when I checked earlier this morning, I was pretty sure that was the case.

Yes there is.
2nd one down from the top.
Makemkv moved it to the top and lists it as main feature since it's the correct playlist

Nice catch! Thank you! I forgot that MakeMKV build in this wonderful feature and moves that .mpls stream to the top! Happy day!

[unit_one]

I am confused... I too am trying to find the correct playlist for the movie "The Shack"... I thought I was clear on cutting through the "playlist obfuscation" via using process monitor and and Power DVD (16)... all seemed very clear... I disabled AnyDVD HD, started the Process Monitor created/enabled the filter (path contains mpls include) Played the Blu-Ray disc... after stepping through all the previews... started the movie and saw the very long (and unchanging mpls 857) without anything else ever displaying.

At that point I made a note of 857 and proceded to use MakeMKV / Handbrake to produce my MKV file... HOWEVER, the movie played fine for some time... and then wham... jumped out of sequence... at first I wasn't sure it had happened (the way some movies today jump about)... but I popped the disc in and sure enough... out of sequence... what's up with that ?

And if I might ask... what do I need to do to get AnyDVD HD or MakeMKV display that "best guess" info I keep hearing about... I never see that ??? and I downloaded / installed Java and tried to find any settings that made sense but no...

I'm not looking for someone just to tell me what mpls I need everytime I run into this "playlist obfuscation" I would much rather be able to derive it myself.... soooo... any and all assistance would be appreciated... thanx...

[mike-da-ripper]

I am confused... I too am trying to find the correct playlist for the movie "The Shack"... I thought I was clear on cutting through the "playlist obfuscation" via using process monitor and and Power DVD (16)... all seemed very clear... I disabled AnyDVD HD, started the Process Monitor created/enabled the filter (path contains mpls include) Played the Blu-Ray disc... after stepping through all the previews... started the movie and saw the very long (and unchanging mpls 857) without anything else ever displaying.

At that point I made a note of 857 and proceded to use MakeMKV / Handbrake to produce my MKV file... HOWEVER, the movie played fine for some time... and then wham... jumped out of sequence... at first I wasn't sure it had happened (the way some movies today jump about)... but I popped the disc in and sure enough... out of sequence... what's up with that ?

And if I might ask... what do I need to do to get AnyDVD HD or MakeMKV display that "best guess" info I keep hearing about... I never see that ??? and I downloaded / installed Java and tried to find any settings that made sense but no...

I'm not looking for someone just to tell me what mpls I need everytime I run into this "playlist obfuscation" I would much rather be able to derive it myself.... soooo... any and all assistance would be appreciated... thanx...

I did it the same way and also got mpls 857. cancelled my Rip based off your comment here and went back and grabbed 636 instead. Not sure why this method is not working any longer. Maybe I need to let the movie play all the way through and see if it jumps around mpls numbers.

[unit_one]

I went back and used 636 and movie played fine.... so I would be very interested in how "crzcnc_17" came up with that mpls ??? ... as 636 never showed up in my process monitor before the movie played or during ???

I am using Process Monitor v 3.32 (with path contains mpls Include) and Cyberlink PowerDVD 16 to play the movie...

I also experienced this same failure in deriving the correct mpls for the movie "Blood Father" BTW...

[hvnphoto]

I went back and used 636 and movie played fine.... so I would be very interested in how "crzcnc_17" came up with that mpls ??? ... as 636 never showed up in my process monitor before the movie played or during ???

I am using Process Monitor v 3.32 (with path contains mpls Include) and Cyberlink PowerDVD 16 to play the movie...

I also experienced this same failure in deriving the correct mpls for the movie "Blood Father" BTW...

Process Monitor is not reliable nowadays. You have 3 options. Redfox AnyDVD HD Latest Version. MakeMKV. Or make a backup of the movie, use the BDMV file to piece together the segments.

[unit_one]

I am using the latest legit copies of AnyDVD HD and MakeMKV... however I am missing some piece of this puzzle as how to identify the correct mpls... i.e. when a disc is subject to this scheme I am merely provided a massive list of mpls entries with no indication of which one may be the correct one... again I keep seeing communications that there is a way for a "best guess" mpls indication identification, however it has eluded me as to how to configure for or trigger that output ???

I don't mind working at it... however, the idea of piecing together segments of a movie that I am unfamiliar with and the propensity of unexpected or less than clear scene jumps seems to be a stumbling block that makes that technique seem very problematic for me.

[yorgo]

If you're using AnyDVD, after the disc has been de-encrypted by AnyDVD and you double-click the RedFox icon (assuming Windows), you will be presented with a Status window with details of the disc and what's been removed. If the disc uses playlist obfuscation (ie, multiple playlists), then there will be a line (or lines for TV series) stating "Java BD protection good playlists:" followed by the correct playlist number. See this post for a visual: https://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopi ... =15#p32531

It bears repeating that playlist obfuscation is a complex copy protection scheme designed to prevent us from making backups of discs. That AnyDVD, MakeMKV, ProcMon, etc. have been able to very often overcome this protection scheme doesn't mean they are infallible; they won't always work or give us a clear answer immediately. "If you build a better mousetrap along comes a better mouse..."