DOlby Vision only shows as HDR and many newbie questions

[merrick97]

I am new to this forum and just started ripping 4K blurays for the purpose of preservation. If there is a FAQ that answers my questions, please direct me to that.

I have decided to start ripping my 4K Blurays for the sole purpose of having a back up in case 4K players no longer become available.

I have no interest in running a network or anything like that. I basically want to hook a USB hard drive to a streaming device that will playback the movies pretty much exactly as though they were being played from the disc with full blown DOlby Vision and Dolby Atmos and DTS-HD MA/DTS:X. Extras are a secondary consideration.

I have ripped a few movies with mixed results. I ripped The Abyss and while the disc supports Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos, I cannot get playback on my Google 4K Chromecast. Running directly off a USB SSD and plugging in directly into My LG C1 OLED, I do get playback, but DV discs only show HDR and Atmos won't playback.

WHat I was trying to do was hook a USB hub to my 4K Google Chromecast and run the movies through that. People have apparently gotten it to work, but I cannot get good playback. Films will not play as I have to go through hoops to get it to load an NTFS formatted as the Chromecast apparently only supports FAT32, which supports only a max file size of 4GB, which aint happening for a 4K film.

As I said earlier, hooking the USB drive directly to my LG C1 OLED TV enables The Abyss to playback, but it will not show as Dolby VIsion and will not recognize the Atmos audio track. I would like to know what it takes to show Dolby Vision.

Through reading it would appear that the Nvidia Shield is the only way to playback truly lossless audio formats. Sigh. I'd consider getting a Shield if they had a more recent model. The current models were last released in 2019 and while I am sure they are fine I feel like those are going end of life fairly soon. If nvidia releases a newer model with an updated processor, I'll consider spending the $200.


Any help on getting DV to show up as the HDR format would be appreciated.

[dcoke22]

I haven't tried it myself, but a Ugoos AM6B+ with recent builds of CoreElec can supposedly do it all.

[merrick97]

Not interested in using streaming. I want to use a box that connects via HDMI. I feel like these boxes should have programs that allow for them to be ripped.

[spl147]

Not interested in using streaming. I want to use a box that connects via HDMI. I feel like these boxes should have programs that allow for them to be ripped.

i hate to say it but, you have no idea what you are talking about! the chromecast 4k will NOT do real Dolby Vision! nor does it have a gb ethernet port. so your choice of device is flawed from the start!

if you bothered to look up the Ugoos AM6b+ you would see it is the Best box Available right now for Media Playback using CoreELEC!

you sir need to take a step back and do your homework!

[spl147]

Not interested in using streaming.

So what do you think the Chromecast 4K is?

[spl147]

I am new to this forum and just started ripping 4K blurays for the purpose of preservation. If there is a FAQ that answers my questions, please direct me to that.

I have decided to start ripping my 4K Blurays for the sole purpose of having a back up in case 4K players no longer become available.

I have no interest in running a network or anything like that. I basically want to hook a USB hard drive to a streaming device that will playback the movies pretty much exactly as though they were being played from the disc with full blown DOlby Vision and Dolby Atmos and DTS-HD MA/DTS:X. Extras are a secondary consideration.

I have ripped a few movies with mixed results. I ripped The Abyss and while the disc supports Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos, I cannot get playback on my Google 4K Chromecast. Running directly off a USB SSD and plugging in directly into My LG C1 OLED, I do get playback, but DV discs only show HDR and Atmos won't playback.

WHat I was trying to do was hook a USB hub to my 4K Google Chromecast and run the movies through that. People have apparently gotten it to work, but I cannot get good playback. Films will not play as I have to go through hoops to get it to load an NTFS formatted as the Chromecast apparently only supports FAT32, which supports only a max file size of 4GB, which aint happening for a 4K film.

As I said earlier, hooking the USB drive directly to my LG C1 OLED TV enables The Abyss to playback, but it will not show as Dolby VIsion and will not recognize the Atmos audio track. I would like to know what it takes to show Dolby Vision.

Through reading it would appear that the Nvidia Shield is the only way to playback truly lossless audio formats. Sigh. I'd consider getting a Shield if they had a more recent model. The current models were last released in 2019 and while I am sure they are fine I feel like those are going end of life fairly soon. If nvidia releases a newer model with an updated processor, I'll consider spending the $200.


Any help on getting DV to show up as the HDR format would be appreciated.

I am new to this forum and just started ripping 4K blurays for the purpose of preservation. If there is a FAQ that answers my questions, please direct me to that.
Answer: It's called the search feature
I have decided to start ripping my 4K Blurays for the sole purpose of having a back up in case 4K players no longer become available.
Answer: Thats never gonna happen
I have no interest in running a network or anything like that. I basically want to hook a USB hard drive to a streaming device that will playback the movies pretty much exactly as though they were being played from the disc with full blown DOlby Vision and Dolby Atmos and DTS-HD MA/DTS:X. Extras are a secondary consideration.
Answer: You will need a NAS on the network if you want to collect 4K movies! unless you want a bunch of HDD's laying around. Ugoos AM6B+ is the device you need! CoreELEC forum has the answers you seek.
I have ripped a few movies with mixed results. I ripped The Abyss and while the disc supports Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos, I cannot get playback on my Google 4K Chromecast. Running directly off a USB SSD and plugging in directly into My LG C1 OLED, I do get playback, but DV discs only show HDR and Atmos won't playback.
Answer: Chromecast 4K Will NOT work! LG C1 does not support DV in MKV not does it support lossless Audio passthrough. ALL these answers are on this forum with a search!
WHat I was trying to do was hook a USB hub to my 4K Google Chromecast and run the movies through that. People have apparently gotten it to work, but I cannot get good playback. Films will not play as I have to go through hoops to get it to load an NTFS formatted as the Chromecast apparently only supports FAT32, which supports only a max file size of 4GB, which aint happening for a 4K film.
Answer: Again the Chromecast 4K is Crap!
As I said earlier, hooking the USB drive directly to my LG C1 OLED TV enables The Abyss to playback, but it will not show as Dolby VIsion and will not recognize the Atmos audio track. I would like to know what it takes to show Dolby Vision.
Answer: A real Playback device (Ugoos AMBb+ running CoreELEC)
Through reading it would appear that the Nvidia Shield is the only way to playback truly lossless audio formats. Sigh. I'd consider getting a Shield if they had a more recent model. The current models were last released in 2019 and while I am sure they are fine I feel like those are going end of life fairly soon. If nvidia releases a newer model with an updated processor, I'll consider spending the $200.
Answer: The ShieldTV also Does NOT do true Dolby Vision!

Any help on getting DV to show up as the HDR format would be appreciated.
Answer: that statement makes no sense!

[merrick97]

I am new to this forum and just started ripping 4K blurays for the purpose of preservation. If there is a FAQ that answers my questions, please direct me to that.

I have decided to start ripping my 4K Blurays for the sole purpose of having a back up in case 4K players no longer become available.

I have no interest in running a network or anything like that. I basically want to hook a USB hard drive to a streaming device that will playback the movies pretty much exactly as though they were being played from the disc with full blown DOlby Vision and Dolby Atmos and DTS-HD MA/DTS:X. Extras are a secondary consideration.

I have ripped a few movies with mixed results. I ripped The Abyss and while the disc supports Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos, I cannot get playback on my Google 4K Chromecast. Running directly off a USB SSD and plugging in directly into My LG C1 OLED, I do get playback, but DV discs only show HDR and Atmos won't playback.

WHat I was trying to do was hook a USB hub to my 4K Google Chromecast and run the movies through that. People have apparently gotten it to work, but I cannot get good playback. Films will not play as I have to go through hoops to get it to load an NTFS formatted as the Chromecast apparently only supports FAT32, which supports only a max file size of 4GB, which aint happening for a 4K film.

As I said earlier, hooking the USB drive directly to my LG C1 OLED TV enables The Abyss to playback, but it will not show as Dolby VIsion and will not recognize the Atmos audio track. I would like to know what it takes to show Dolby Vision.

Through reading it would appear that the Nvidia Shield is the only way to playback truly lossless audio formats. Sigh. I'd consider getting a Shield if they had a more recent model. The current models were last released in 2019 and while I am sure they are fine I feel like those are going end of life fairly soon. If nvidia releases a newer model with an updated processor, I'll consider spending the $200.


Any help on getting DV to show up as the HDR format would be appreciated.

I am new to this forum and just started ripping 4K blurays for the purpose of preservation. If there is a FAQ that answers my questions, please direct me to that.
Answer: It's called the search feature
I have decided to start ripping my 4K Blurays for the sole purpose of having a back up in case 4K players no longer become available.
Answer: Thats never gonna happen
I have no interest in running a network or anything like that. I basically want to hook a USB hard drive to a streaming device that will playback the movies pretty much exactly as though they were being played from the disc with full blown DOlby Vision and Dolby Atmos and DTS-HD MA/DTS:X. Extras are a secondary consideration.
Answer: You will need a NAS on the network if you want to collect 4K movies! unless you want a bunch of HDD's laying around. Ugoos AM6B+ is the device you need! CoreELEC forum has the answers you seek.
I have ripped a few movies with mixed results. I ripped The Abyss and while the disc supports Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos, I cannot get playback on my Google 4K Chromecast. Running directly off a USB SSD and plugging in directly into My LG C1 OLED, I do get playback, but DV discs only show HDR and Atmos won't playback.
Answer: Chromecast 4K Will NOT work! LG C1 does not support DV in MKV not does it support lossless Audio passthrough. ALL these answers are on this forum with a search!
WHat I was trying to do was hook a USB hub to my 4K Google Chromecast and run the movies through that. People have apparently gotten it to work, but I cannot get good playback. Films will not play as I have to go through hoops to get it to load an NTFS formatted as the Chromecast apparently only supports FAT32, which supports only a max file size of 4GB, which aint happening for a 4K film.
Answer: Again the Chromecast 4K is Crap!
As I said earlier, hooking the USB drive directly to my LG C1 OLED TV enables The Abyss to playback, but it will not show as Dolby VIsion and will not recognize the Atmos audio track. I would like to know what it takes to show Dolby Vision.
Answer: A real Playback device (Ugoos AMBb+ running CoreELEC)
Through reading it would appear that the Nvidia Shield is the only way to playback truly lossless audio formats. Sigh. I'd consider getting a Shield if they had a more recent model. The current models were last released in 2019 and while I am sure they are fine I feel like those are going end of life fairly soon. If nvidia releases a newer model with an updated processor, I'll consider spending the $200.
Answer: The ShieldTV also Does NOT do true Dolby Vision!

Any help on getting DV to show up as the HDR format would be appreciated.
Answer: that statement makes no sense!

There is no need to be a jerk. There is no reason for it.

I used the search function. Over and over and over. Search functions are great when they yield exactly what you are looking for. I couldn't find anything I was looking for in one place or in another place.

You bring up the Chromecast 4K is crap. Yes, I agree which is why I was looking for alternatives. It obviously cannot pass lossless audio.

[dcoke22]

Dolby Vision is a surprisingly complicated thing. It has a concept they call profiles. When you watch a streaming service that has Dolby Vision, that's a profile 5 kind of DV. Lots of TVs and streaming boxes can decode and display profile 5 Dolby Vision. A UHD with Dolby Vision is profile 7. Decoding and properly displaying profile 7 DV is a lot harder to do than profile 5. Until recently the only way to play profile 7 DV was to buy a Dolby Vision capable UHD player and put the disc in the player.

If you look around, you can find various sets of tools and instructions to take a profile 7 DV rip and turn it into a different thing, usually Dolby Vision profile 8, so it can be watched in DV on a select set of players that could play profile 8 DV.

Then, very recently, the developers at CoreElec managed to write enough code to properly decode and display a DV profile 7 UHD rip on a very specific set of hardware, the Ugoos AM6B+ (and perhaps a couple of other streaming boxes that have the same specific Amlogic chipset inside). To my knowledge, if you want to rip a UHD with Dolby Vision and then play it back in DV with all the bells and whistles that Dolby Vision on UHD offers, CoreElec on specific hardware is the only way to do that.

The Ugoos connects to the TV via HDMI, as one would expect. CoreElec is a specific variant of Kodi. I do not know if one can plug a drive into the Ugoos and have CoreElec play DV movies from the drive. The most common setup is the Ugoos box connected to the TV and connected to a home network with the movies stored on a NAS or on a Kodi (or Plex) server somewhere else in the house.

In summary, for the moment, full DV support from UHD rips is only achieved on a very short list of specific hardware running CoreElec.

[merrick97]

Dolby Vision is a surprisingly complicated thing. It has a concept they call profiles. When you watch a streaming service that has Dolby Vision, that's a profile 5 kind of DV. Lots of TVs and streaming boxes can decode and display profile 5 Dolby Vision. A UHD with Dolby Vision is profile 7. Decoding and properly displaying profile 7 DV is a lot harder to do than profile 5. Until recently the only way to play profile 7 DV was to buy a Dolby Vision capable UHD player and put the disc in the player.

If you look around, you can find various sets of tools and instructions to take a profile 7 DV rip and turn it into a different thing, usually Dolby Vision profile 8, so it can be watched in DV on a select set of players that could play profile 8 DV.

Then, very recently, the developers at CoreElec managed to write enough code to properly decode and display a DV profile 7 UHD rip on a very specific set of hardware, the Ugoos AM6B+ (and perhaps a couple of other streaming boxes that have the same specific Amlogic chipset inside). To my knowledge, if you want to rip a UHD with Dolby Vision and then play it back in DV with all the bells and whistles that Dolby Vision on UHD offers, CoreElec on specific hardware is the only way to do that.

The Ugoos connects to the TV via HDMI, as one would expect. CoreElec is a specific variant of Kodi. I do not know if one can plug a drive into the Ugoos and have CoreElec play DV movies from the drive. The most common setup is the Ugoos box connected to the TV and connected to a home network with the movies stored on a NAS or on a Kodi (or Plex) server somewhere else in the house.

In summary, for the moment, full DV support from UHD rips is only achieved on a very short list of specific hardware running CoreElec.

So what I gather, the best way to get Dolby vision playback on a wide variety of devices would be to (somehow) covert the Profile 7 to Profile 5 or Profile 8. Not sure how to do that, but I’ll look into it. Now that I know specifically what to look for.

The thing I find annoying is how few devices can decode lossless TrueHD Atmos or DTS-HD MA. I also need to find a way to convert lossless Atmos to lossy Atmos similar to what Netflix uses. I’ll never have a super expensive audio setup. The DD+ version of Atmos sounds fine to me.

[magiccupcake]

The am6b+ will do exactly what you want, it comes with a usb port so you can just plug in a hard drive and play any dolby vision file with any audio, atmos included.

[merrick97]

The am6b+ will do exactly what you want, it comes with a usb port so you can just plug in a hard drive and play any dolby vision file with any audio, atmos included.

Sadly, that model doesn't seem to be available at the moment. I am currently researching to see if I can build a PC with LibreELEC installed. I may convert to Profile 8 instead of using Profile 7. I doubt that there is a noticeable quality difference.

[merrick97]

I ordered a Ugoos AM6B plus from Ali Express. Hopefully it will be here in less than 2 weeks.

I have learned a lot and really it's a shame that it's pretty much impossible to get a device where I can hook up a lossless rip of 4K-BD with DV and TrueHD/DTS-MA that will play them from an MKV file. Heck, even getting a device to play DV 8.1 is a challenge. My chromecast was not up to any challenge. Companies like Apple have removed USB connections from their devices.

[merrick97]

The am6b+ will do exactly what you want, it comes with a usb port so you can just plug in a hard drive and play any dolby vision file with any audio, atmos included.

I took everyone's advice and ordered it. After some hickups. Everything seems to work. DOlby Vision Profile 7 mkv rips play flawlessly so far.

[dcoke22]

The am6b+ will do exactly what you want, it comes with a usb port so you can just plug in a hard drive and play any dolby vision file with any audio, atmos included.

I took everyone's advice and ordered it. After some hickups. Everything seems to work. DOlby Vision Profile 7 mkv rips play flawlessly so far.

Is it working by having a USB hard drive attached to it? I assume this thing is not connected to a network?

[merrick97]

The am6b+ will do exactly what you want, it comes with a usb port so you can just plug in a hard drive and play any dolby vision file with any audio, atmos included.

I took everyone's advice and ordered it. After some hickups. Everything seems to work. DOlby Vision Profile 7 mkv rips play flawlessly so far.

Is it working by having a USB hard drive attached to it? I assume this thing is not connected to a network?

Yes, it has an HDD connected to it.