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No sound when ripping Criterion blu rays

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:10 am
by starwanderer
Hello,

I get no sound when I ripped these two Criterion blu rays, "12 Angry Men" and "The 39 Steps" (for the latter, I only got the sound on the audio commentary but none on the two films). I've ripped other blu rays and had no problems with the sound. Is it a "Criterion-related" problem? Is the fact that Criterion blu rays are "Region A" a problem?

Thanks a lot for your help

My system:

Mac OS X 10.7.5
3.06 GHz Intel Core i3
4GB 1333 MHz RAM

I use VLC to play the ripped blu rays

Re: No sound when ripping Criterion blu rays

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:26 pm
by starwanderer
Nobody? I guess this problem with Criterion blu rays can't be an isolated problem, can it? ; )

Thanks

Re: No sound when ripping Criterion blu rays

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:26 pm
by crowfax
Can you post the info for the file that you're having issues with us if mediainfo please.

Re: No sound when ripping Criterion blu rays

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:47 pm
by starwanderer
crowfax wrote:Can you post the info for the file that you're having issues with us if mediainfo please.
Thanks. I'm having problems with blu rays with mono LPCM sound.

VLC reports this message: "cannot open codec (PCM S24 LE)"

Here's the media info for "12 Angry Men"

File: /Volumes/Music/Films/12_ANGRY_MEN_t00.mkv
Size: 16.93 GB
Format: Matroska/WebM file format
Chapters count: 18
Stream count: 3
Duration: 01:36:21
Bit rate: 25157 kb/s
Meta info:
title: 12 ANGRY MEN
creation_time: 2012-11-13 22:29:45

Stream 0
Type: video
Codec: h264
Codec profile: High
Width: 1920
Height: 1080
Sample aspect ratio: 1:1
Display aspect ratio: 16:9
Pixel format: yuv420p
Frame rate: 23.98 fps
Meta info:
language: eng

Stream 1
Type: audio
Codec: pcm_s24le
Bit rate: 1152 kb/s
Sample rate: 48000 Hz
Sample format: s32

Channel: 1
Default: YES
Meta info:
title: 1/0
language: eng

Stream 2
Type: subtitle
Codec: pgssub
Default: YES
Meta info:
language: eng

and this is for another Criterion blu ray: "Brief Encounter," which surprisingly has been ripped right! :shock:
I've highlighted in bold where I think the problem lies.

File: /Volumes/Music/Films/Brief Encounter_1.mkv
Size: 24.18 GB
Format: Matroska/WebM file format
Chapters count: 9
Stream count: 4
Duration: 01:26:47
Bit rate: 39882 kb/s
Meta info:
creation_time: 2012-11-14 22:01:31

Stream 0
Type: video
Codec: h264
Codec profile: High
Width: 1920
Height: 1080
Sample aspect ratio: 1:1
Display aspect ratio: 16:9
Pixel format: yuv420p
Frame rate: 24.40 fps
Default: YES
Meta info:
language: eng

Stream 1
Type: audio
Codec: pcm_s16le
Bit rate: 4608 kb/s
Sample rate: 48000 Hz
Sample format: s16

Channel: 6
Default: YES
Meta info:
language: eng

Stream 2
Type: audio
Codec: ac3
Bit rate: 192 kb/s
Sample rate: 48000 Hz
Sample format: s16
Channel: 1
Default: YES
Meta info:
language: eng

Stream 3
Type: subtitle
Codec: pgssub
Default: YES
Meta info:
language: eng

Re: No sound when ripping Criterion blu rays

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:12 am
by crowfax
This is a vlc issue. Best to raise it with them.

You can also rip with the FLAC profile in makemkv which so far as I know will convert LPCM to FLAC which will work in VLC

Re: No sound when ripping Criterion blu rays

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:40 am
by starwanderer
crowfax wrote:This is a vlc issue. Best to raise it with them.

You can also rip with the FLAC profile in makemkv which so far as I know will convert LPCM to FLAC which will work in VLC
Thanks. I'll try that. Anyway, I'm not sure if it's only a VLC issue. I also have another Mac blu ray player and no sound either.

Re: No sound when ripping Criterion blu rays

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:30 am
by Wondercow
I have 12 Angry Men and it ripped without issue. As Crowfax mentioned, VLC doesn't handle the LPCM codec used on Criterion releases, so those soundtracks need to be converted to another format. I recommend FLAC since it saves a lot of space and keeps the audio lossless.

Re: No sound when ripping Criterion blu rays

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:52 am
by starwanderer
Wondercow wrote:I have 12 Angry Men and it ripped without issue. As Crowfax mentioned, VLC doesn't handle the LPCM codec used on Criterion releases, so those soundtracks need to be converted to another format. I recommend FLAC since it saves a lot of space and keeps the audio lossless.
Thanks. One Criterion film that ripped with no issues is "Brief Encounter." I'll try ripping with the FLAC profile. Anyway, do you know if those Criterion blu rays will play on a TV? I still have no cable to connect my iMac to the TV and it would be great if I don't have to re-rip them again ;)

Re: No sound when ripping Criterion blu rays

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:53 pm
by telletran1@juno.com
Hi,

Sorry if this has been answered in another thread, but I am having the same problem as OP. Anytime I rip a Criterion title, I do not get sound. The 3 titles i have tried are The Lady Vanishes, Yojimbo and Rashomon. I saw in one of the responses that you could switch the profile to a FLAC profile and that should resolve. However, I don't seem to be able to accomplish switching to the FLAC profile.

Your assistance is appreciated.