Pioneer BDR-212UBK - Great Drive for Every Disk! Too Bad It Isn't UHD Friendly!

Discussion of LibreDrive mode, compatible drives and firmwares
Coopervid
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212UBK - Great Drive for Every Disk! Too Bad It Isn't UHD Friendly!

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rewpb
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Hi, just a quick question. I was thinking about getting the Pioneer BDR-212UBK for my new PC i'm getting with i7 12th gen and msi z690 motherboard w/ 32GB ram and Nvidia RTX 3080ti. I'm aware of the requirments I obviously won't have for 4KUHD playback/ripping but would I still be able to use it for regular1080p bluray playback/ripping and music CD ripping?
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rewpb wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:20 am
Hi, just a quick question. I was thinking about getting the Pioneer BDR-212UBK for my new PC i'm getting with i7 12th gen and msi z690 motherboard w/ 32GB ram and Nvidia RTX 3080ti. I'm aware of the requirments I obviously won't have for 4KUHD playback/ripping but would I still be able to use it for regular1080p bluray playback/ripping and music CD ripping?
yes you can use it for 1080p ripping but makmekmv just added support for pioneer drives so you can play and rip UHD unofficially with it
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Cyber Akuma
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Billycar11 wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:31 am
rewpb wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:20 am
Hi, just a quick question. I was thinking about getting the Pioneer BDR-212UBK for my new PC i'm getting with i7 12th gen and msi z690 motherboard w/ 32GB ram and Nvidia RTX 3080ti. I'm aware of the requirments I obviously won't have for 4KUHD playback/ripping but would I still be able to use it for regular1080p bluray playback/ripping and music CD ripping?
yes you can use it for 1080p ripping but makmekmv just added support for pioneer drives so you can play and rip UHD unofficially with it
Oh wow, great timing, I was about to buy both a Pioneer to use as the main burning/reading drive on my system and a WH16NS60 in an enclosure purely for ripping 4k disks. Now I just need to buy the Pioneer.

Just to make sure, flashing the Libredrive firmware won't effect any of the drive's other functions in terms of reading/burning disks right?
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Cyber Akuma wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:48 pm
Billycar11 wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:31 am
rewpb wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:20 am
Hi, just a quick question. I was thinking about getting the Pioneer BDR-212UBK for my new PC i'm getting with i7 12th gen and msi z690 motherboard w/ 32GB ram and Nvidia RTX 3080ti. I'm aware of the requirments I obviously won't have for 4KUHD playback/ripping but would I still be able to use it for regular1080p bluray playback/ripping and music CD ripping?
yes you can use it for 1080p ripping but makmekmv just added support for pioneer drives so you can play and rip UHD unofficially with it
Oh wow, great timing, I was about to buy both a Pioneer to use as the main burning/reading drive on my system and a WH16NS60 in an enclosure purely for ripping 4k disks. Now I just need to buy the Pioneer.

Just to make sure, flashing the Libredrive firmware won't effect any of the drive's other functions in terms of reading/burning disks right?
No firmware flashing on pioneer for now
Buy a UHD drive from the guide and how to video maker: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831
UHD Drives Guide: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=19634
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Cyber Akuma
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Billycar11 wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:52 pm
No firmware flashing on pioneer for now
Wait, so you mean it just works without any modifications to the drive? I thought all drives had to be flashed to bypass protections preventing UHD ripping?
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They only need to be flashed if they have to restore firmware functions that LibreDrive needs. Since LibreDrive has never worked with these drives, it works with the firmware out of the box. NEVER update the firmware. EVER.
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SamuriHL wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:40 pm
They only need to be flashed if they have to restore firmware functions that LibreDrive needs. Since LibreDrive has never worked with these drives, it works with the firmware out of the box. NEVER update the firmware. EVER.
Hello, so to confirm, the Pioneer BDR-212UBK can now rip UHD discs with version MakeMKV 1.16.7?

I have an AMD, but I am only using this to rip with Make MKV, not to watch discs on the PC. Will it still work?

Also this would be a new drive, I see on the Pioneer site there is a firmware update to 1.01 from Nov 2020. Is it safe to assume this might be the version on the new drive and will the drive still rip the 4k disks?

I won't update the firmware after I get this. Thanks.
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yammie1 wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:00 pm
SamuriHL wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:40 pm
They only need to be flashed if they have to restore firmware functions that LibreDrive needs. Since LibreDrive has never worked with these drives, it works with the firmware out of the box. NEVER update the firmware. EVER.
Hello, so to confirm, the Pioneer BDR-212UBK can now rip UHD discs with version MakeMKV 1.16.7?

I have an AMD, but I am only using this to rip with Make MKV, not to watch discs on the PC. Will it still work?

Also this would be a new drive, I see on the Pioneer site there is a firmware update to 1.01 from Nov 2020. Is it safe to assume this might be the version on the new drive and will the drive still rip the 4k disks?

I won't update the firmware after I get this. Thanks.
Please post your Makemkv status info.
yammie1
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Post by yammie1 »

Coopervid wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:17 pm
yammie1 wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:00 pm
SamuriHL wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:40 pm
They only need to be flashed if they have to restore firmware functions that LibreDrive needs. Since LibreDrive has never worked with these drives, it works with the firmware out of the box. NEVER update the firmware. EVER.
Hello, so to confirm, the Pioneer BDR-212UBK can now rip UHD discs with version MakeMKV 1.16.7?

I have an AMD, but I am only using this to rip with Make MKV, not to watch discs on the PC. Will it still work?

Also this would be a new drive, I see on the Pioneer site there is a firmware update to 1.01 from Nov 2020. Is it safe to assume this might be the version on the new drive and will the drive still rip the 4k disks?

I won't update the firmware after I get this. Thanks.
Please post your Makemkv status info.
Hello, I am not sure what you are asking. I can post what shows up in the info section of Makemkv, but it's not for the 212ubk.
SamuriHL
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212UBK - Great Drive for Every Disk! Too Bad It Isn't UHD Friendly!

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yammie1 wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:00 pm
SamuriHL wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:40 pm
They only need to be flashed if they have to restore firmware functions that LibreDrive needs. Since LibreDrive has never worked with these drives, it works with the firmware out of the box. NEVER update the firmware. EVER.
Hello, so to confirm, the Pioneer BDR-212UBK can now rip UHD discs with version MakeMKV 1.16.7?

I have an AMD, but I am only using this to rip with Make MKV, not to watch discs on the PC. Will it still work?

Also this would be a new drive, I see on the Pioneer site there is a firmware update to 1.01 from Nov 2020. Is it safe to assume this might be the version on the new drive and will the drive still rip the 4k disks?

I won't update the firmware after I get this. Thanks.
Yes, the BDR-212UBK rips UHD's. Slowly but it's very adept at reading. As for firmware it's not really possible to tell what a drive will ship with. Mine came with 1.01. Once you get the drive, open up MakeMKV and check the status like coopervid says above.
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does anyone know if this drive works in region 1? I am in the states and was looking at this and the BDR-S12UHT.
Billycar11
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Post by Billycar11 »

gerard143 wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:59 pm
does anyone know if this drive works in region 1? I am in the states and was looking at this and the BDR-S12UHT.
Any drive in a pc can be any region you can change it.
But that not relavant for makemkv
Buy a UHD drive from the guide and how to video maker: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831
UHD Drives Guide: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=19634
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gerard143
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Post by gerard143 »

great thank you! sorry I am a newbie at this. Trying to learn.
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Post by ranger671 »

For those interested, I just received and have tested the new BDR-S13UBK and it seems to work flawlessly with Makemkv. I have ripped both BR and 4K with no issues. The Libredrive information is below.

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS9201
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-213T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.02/ID43
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
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