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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:07 am
by MartyMcNuts
Saebasan wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:02 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:49 pm
Saebasan wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:37 pm
:)
Then, how to make this UD03, Makemkv “enable”?

What about the sdf.bin file?
Should I ask to enlist this drive in it, or something like so?
The only way to enable UHD ripping on that drive is to contact Billycar11 and purchase his flasher.
Thank you but really? It sounds a little bit odd... :roll:
As the first post of this thread, from mike, the admin, just says "none of the Pioneer drives require firmware update - they should just work"...
Regarding his explanations, it may just work without firmware upgrade.

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That post from Mike is talking about enabling libredrive. People need to realize that libredrive does not equal UHD readability. Your drive will never work for UHD without cross-flashing it to the UHD model BDR-UD04. It's as simple as that.

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:26 am
by Saebasan
As the admin posted here: "RS8xxx and later, including RS9xxx RSAxxx and so on. Should be supported."
and "Please post the drive model here."

As my model's chip is a RS8510,
eventually, may I post my model here?
BD-RE PIONEER BD-RW BDR-UD03 1.03 MLDL038441WL

May I ask to incorporate it in the SDF.bin?
Please. Thank you. :cry:

Here, this informations from Makemkv:
*******************************************************************
Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-UD03
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: MLDL038441WL
Firmware date: 2015-05-14
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8510
Firmware version: ID19
*******************************************************************

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:59 am
by MartyMcNuts
Saebasan wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:26 am
As the admin posted here: "RS8xxx and later, including RS9xxx RSAxxx and so on. Should be supported."
and "Please post the drive model here."

As my model's chip is a RS8510,
eventually, may I post my model here?
BD-RE PIONEER BD-RW BDR-UD03 1.03 MLDL038441WL

May I ask to incorporate it in the SDF.bin?
Please. Thank you. :cry:

Here, this informations from Makemkv:
*******************************************************************
Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-UD03
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: MLDL038441WL
Firmware date: 2015-05-14
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8510
Firmware version: ID19
*******************************************************************
As I said before, yes Mike may add it which will enable libredrive but it will still not read UHD discs. Not until it is cross-flashed to the UHD model BDR-UD04 (which will also enable libredrive).

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:35 am
by Saebasan
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:59 am


As I said before, yes Mike may add it which will enable libredrive but it will still not read UHD discs. Not until it is cross-flashed to the UHD model BDR-UD04 (which will also enable libredrive).
Sorry, dunno when/who you said precisely that before. Maybe to someone else, or I didn’t get it though. Sorry then. :D

Anyway, for this drive, I just would like to free it up in Makemkv. It would be just fine to me. Thanks.

Eventually, Mike could add it?
Here, the informations from Makemkv:
******************************************************
Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-UD03
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: MLDL038441WL
Firmware date: 2015-05-14
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8510
Firmware version: ID19
***********************************
Thank you :cry:

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:13 am
by MartyMcNuts
Saebasan wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:35 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:59 am


As I said before, yes Mike may add it which will enable libredrive but it will still not read UHD discs. Not until it is cross-flashed to the UHD model BDR-UD04 (which will also enable libredrive).
Sorry, dunno when/who you said precisely that before. Maybe to someone else, or I didn’t get it though. Sorry then. :D

Anyway, for this drive, I just would like to free it up in Makemkv. It would be just fine to me. Thanks.

Eventually, Mike could add it?
Here, the informations from Makemkv:
******************************************************
Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-UD03
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: MLDL038441WL
Firmware date: 2015-05-14
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8510
Firmware version: ID19
***********************************
Thank you :cry:
Send Mike Admin a PM. He may need to extract the firmware from your drive to be able to add it.

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:49 pm
by Hans_Meiser
Billycar11 wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:34 pm
Starfire wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:40 pm
Hello,

in my old drives I found a Pioneer BDR-S09XLT which I had purchased in 2016. After reading this I had hopes it could be used for reading UHD discs.
So I hooked it up through a spare USB-adapter and ran MakeMKV. The drive is detected but MakeMKV doesn't display any LibreDrive Information - the whole section is just missing - the following is all that is displayed:

Code: Select all

Drive Information
OS device name: R:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S09
Revision: 1.51
Serial number: redacted
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 53

No disc inserted
On other drives I usually get the LibreDrive information even through the drive clearly doesn't support it, e.g. on a LG BD-RE GGW-H20L i get:

Code: Select all

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, might be supported in future, but not likely soon
Drive platform: RS1013
Firmware version: YL07-00
Is there anything that can be done for the BDR-S09?
Not for UHD

I'm a little irritated. I have the same drive (BDR-S09XLT), but not with an USB-Adpter - it's in my Computer connected normally with SATA. Because I thought it wouldn't be capable to handle UHD's I recently bought a new BD-RE BH16NS40 and flashed it succesfully with DE_LG_WH16NS60_1.02_MK firm. But now I have started Make MKV and I see this message-Box with my Pioneer:

Image



Does that mean it can Read / Rip UHDs and I didn't need to buy the LG-Drive? :D
Unfortuately I do not have any UHD Disc to try it on my own - have to buy one first :D

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:05 pm
by Billycar11
Hans_Meiser wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:49 pm
Billycar11 wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:34 pm
Starfire wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:40 pm
Hello,

in my old drives I found a Pioneer BDR-S09XLT which I had purchased in 2016. After reading this I had hopes it could be used for reading UHD discs.
So I hooked it up through a spare USB-adapter and ran MakeMKV. The drive is detected but MakeMKV doesn't display any LibreDrive Information - the whole section is just missing - the following is all that is displayed:

Code: Select all

Drive Information
OS device name: R:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S09
Revision: 1.51
Serial number: redacted
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 53

No disc inserted
On other drives I usually get the LibreDrive information even through the drive clearly doesn't support it, e.g. on a LG BD-RE GGW-H20L i get:

Code: Select all

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, might be supported in future, but not likely soon
Drive platform: RS1013
Firmware version: YL07-00
Is there anything that can be done for the BDR-S09?
Not for UHD

I'm a little irritated. I have the same drive (BDR-S09XLT), but not with an USB-Adpter - it's in my Computer connected normally with SATA. Because I thought it wouldn't be capable to handle UHD's I recently bought a new BD-RE BH16NS40 and flashed it succesfully with DE_LG_WH16NS60_1.02_MK firm. But now I have started Make MKV and I see this message-Box with my Pioneer:

Image



Does that mean it can Read / Rip UHDs and I didn't need to buy the LG-Drive? :D
Unfortuately I do not have any UHD Disc to try it on my own - have to buy one first :D
The pioneer needs to be flashed to do UHD email me for an automated flasher

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:07 pm
by MartyMcNuts
Hans_Meiser wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:49 pm
Billycar11 wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:34 pm
Starfire wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:40 pm
Hello,

in my old drives I found a Pioneer BDR-S09XLT which I had purchased in 2016. After reading this I had hopes it could be used for reading UHD discs.
So I hooked it up through a spare USB-adapter and ran MakeMKV. The drive is detected but MakeMKV doesn't display any LibreDrive Information - the whole section is just missing - the following is all that is displayed:

Code: Select all

Drive Information
OS device name: R:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S09
Revision: 1.51
Serial number: redacted
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 53

No disc inserted
On other drives I usually get the LibreDrive information even through the drive clearly doesn't support it, e.g. on a LG BD-RE GGW-H20L i get:

Code: Select all

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, might be supported in future, but not likely soon
Drive platform: RS1013
Firmware version: YL07-00
Is there anything that can be done for the BDR-S09?
Not for UHD

I'm a little irritated. I have the same drive (BDR-S09XLT), but not with an USB-Adpter - it's in my Computer connected normally with SATA. Because I thought it wouldn't be capable to handle UHD's I recently bought a new BD-RE BH16NS40 and flashed it succesfully with DE_LG_WH16NS60_1.02_MK firm. But now I have started Make MKV and I see this message-Box with my Pioneer:

Image



Does that mean it can Read / Rip UHDs and I didn't need to buy the LG-Drive? :D
Unfortuately I do not have any UHD Disc to try it on my own - have to buy one first :D
LibreDrive enabled does not equal UHD readability!! It needs cross-flashing to be able to read UHD discs.

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:52 pm
by Loverman
Hi, I have potential Pioneer BDR-212 I can purchase from acomputer store. Does any one know where I can find cross flash to make the drive UHD friend. Thanks

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:04 pm
by asmcom
Loverman wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:52 pm
Hi, I have potential Pioneer BDR-212 I can purchase from acomputer store. Does any one know where I can find cross flash to make the drive UHD friend. Thanks
Billycar11 can help you out with his automated flasher.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17831

Asmcom :mrgreen:

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:29 pm
by Loverman
asmcom wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:04 pm
Loverman wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:52 pm
Hi, I have potential Pioneer BDR-212 I can purchase from acomputer store. Does any one know where I can find cross flash to make the drive UHD friend. Thanks
Billycar11 can help you out with his automated flasher.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17831

Asmcom :mrgreen:
Thanks man! Does Makemkv decrypt the 4k disc or does the UHD drive decrypt 4k?

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:01 am
by Billycar11
Loverman wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:29 pm
asmcom wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:04 pm
Loverman wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:52 pm
Hi, I have potential Pioneer BDR-212 I can purchase from acomputer store. Does any one know where I can find cross flash to make the drive UHD friend. Thanks
Billycar11 can help you out with his automated flasher.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17831

Asmcom :mrgreen:
Thanks man! Does Makemkv decrypt the 4k disc or does the UHD drive decrypt 4k?
Makemkv

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:07 pm
by krhainos
Just bought a new drive. Looks like I'm good to go?

Is there any difference between this drive and purchasing a flashed one?

Drive Information
OS device name: F:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S13U
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: BGDL000136UC
Firmware date: 2022-02-16
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS9201
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-213T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.02/ID43
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

No disc inserted

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:44 am
by asmcom
krhainos wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:07 pm
Just bought a new drive. Looks like I'm good to go?

Is there any difference between this drive and purchasing a flashed one?

Drive Information
OS device name: F:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S13U
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: BGDL000136UC
Firmware date: 2022-02-16
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS9201
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-213T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.02/ID43
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

No disc inserted
This drive is fine and should be okay.

Asmcom

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:57 am
by sacdman
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