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MicAel1 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:00 pm

Bought an external Verbatim BDXL driver this weekend. According to this thread I though it would work.
Unfortunately it doesn't recognize UHD disks. (It just shows "No disc").


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Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr1
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-UD03
Revision: 1.14
Serial number: BADL********
Firmware date: 2020-06-15
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 81

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8511
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-US03
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.14
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

No disc inserted

Anything I'm doing wrong?
I'm running the latest MakeMKV version on Fedora 38. The console prints an "openssl test 0050 failed" error message but I ripped movies using my internal drive before.

Best,
Michael

Just for clarification: Only some Verbatims in EU contain a Pioneer UD04. The ones sold in the US contain an UD03.

Coopervid wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:04 pm

Just for clarification: Only some Verbatims in EU contain a Pioneer UD04. The ones sold in the US contain an UD03.

In the US, does anything ship with a Pioneer UD04 in it?

Nothing as far as I know. The only way would be to buy a Verbatim with an UD03 and flash it to UD04. Until now there is no screwed up new firmware for both of these "old" drives.

Welp, got this drive primarily to rip Dinotopia. Noticed it was ripping really slowly. 1.8X or so. did some googling, and found this rabbit hole with the firmwares and such.
I'm debating sending it back, I tried ripping Reign of Fire BR and it would not just tons of errors. I tried how to train your dragon BR and it would not. It got dinotopia the show and the mini series just fine as well as a couple DVDs. So not sure whats going on with that. But then I started reading about the intel 10th gen being the last that can really do anything with 4K blurays & I am building a new plex 12600k based system. So is this drive basically useless to me then?

Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XD08U
Revision: 1.02
Serial number:n1mb3r5&l3tt3r5
Firmware date: 2022-12-27
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 65

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9331
Firmware version: ID05

Falcon1772 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:29 am

Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XD08U
Revision: 1.02
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Firmware date: 2022-12-27

LibreDrive cannot be enabled (yet?) because firmware is too new (>= 2022-12), which currently prevents it reading UHD disks. Your non-UHD disks should still be completely manageable without LibreDrive though.

What speed should a BR rip be at? 1.8X and very rarely 1.9x is all I get. I was under the impression it should be 6x? or is that way wrong. My apologies in advance I am new to all this.

Falcon1772 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:35 am

What speed should a BR rip be at? 1.8X and very rarely 1.9x is all I get. I was under the impression it should be 6x? or is that way wrong. My apologies in advance I am new to all this.

yeah bd should be 4-6 x thats what i get on my xs07s
use the pioneer drive utility to change the mode to performance and see if that helps
pioneers are ,uch smarter than lg drive they will limit their speed if it knows it can pull enough power from the usb power and lg would just pull it all and reboot form low voltage and ruin your rip
so you may also need to look in to a powered hub or using the barrel jack on your pioneer.

Billycar11 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:51 am

Falcon1772 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:35 am

What speed should a BR rip be at? 1.8X and very rarely 1.9x is all I get. I was under the impression it should be 6x? or is that way wrong. My apologies in advance I am new to all this.

yeah bd should be 4-6 x thats what i get on my xs07s
use the pioneer drive utility to change the mode to performance and see if that helps
pioneers are ,uch smarter than lg drive they will limit their speed if it knows it can pull enough power from the usb power and lg would just pull it all and reboot form low voltage and ruin your rip
so you may also need to look in to a powered hub or using the barrel jack on your pioneer.

Thank you! Thank seems to have done the trick. I have it performance and currently ripping Fifth Element at 3.5x and climbing. Will this program force an update in the background? or can I uninstall it and have it remain on the performance profile ? if that makes sense?

Falcon1772 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:19 am

Billycar11 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:51 am

Falcon1772 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:35 am

What speed should a BR rip be at? 1.8X and very rarely 1.9x is all I get. I was under the impression it should be 6x? or is that way wrong. My apologies in advance I am new to all this.

yeah bd should be 4-6 x thats what i get on my xs07s
use the pioneer drive utility to change the mode to performance and see if that helps
pioneers are ,uch smarter than lg drive they will limit their speed if it knows it can pull enough power from the usb power and lg would just pull it all and reboot form low voltage and ruin your rip
so you may also need to look in to a powered hub or using the barrel jack on your pioneer.

Thank you! Thank seems to have done the trick. I have it performance and currently ripping Fifth Element at 3.5x and climbing. Will this program force an update in the background? or can I uninstall it and have it remain on the performance profile ? if that makes sense?

no it should not but you can use the write setting to drive feature in it and it should stay

Hitting 6.0x [SAFE] now. So much faster.

Does the firmware affect the calculation/logic for the data capacity in the disc information in any way?

I'm currently reripping my uhd discs with dolby vision and noticed that lg sn60 v1.03 & asus 16D1HT drives report other disc sizes than the pioneer BDR-211EBK.
When I copy a disc with the pioneer drive it has roughly the same size on the nas as the lg & asus drives reported.

Just bought a used Pioneer BDR-S13U-X, hoping it would be pre December 2022. Unfortunately it is May 2023.

Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S13JX
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: CEDL000177UC
Firmware date: 2022-12-12
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 76

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9201
Firmware version: ID72

Any hope for this drive?

deerewright wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:54 pm

Just bought a used Pioneer BDR-S13U-X, hoping it would be pre December 2022. Unfortunately it is May 2023.

Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S13JX
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: CEDL000177UC
Firmware date: 2022-12-12
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 76

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9201
Firmware version: ID72

Any hope for this drive?

sorry no not unless makemkv is updated to work with it

Drive Information
OS device name: F:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07U
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: CEDL012392UC
Firmware date: 2023-01-06
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 77

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8E21
Firmware version: ID05

Which one is actual firmware revision? "Revision: 1.03" under Drive Information or "Firmware version: ID05" under LibreDrive Information?

Is this drive ever going to be capable of ripping 4K UHD?

I was hoping Mike would have a new firmware to make them work soon