LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Discussion of LibreDrive mode, compatible drives and firmwares
ama0riko
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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Billycar11 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:34 am
ama0riko wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:04 am
Hi, this is my first time here so there are probably going to be some spots in my knowledge.

I'm looking to get a Pioneer drive that I can just purchase and will work with ripping pretty much any content.

- I live in Japan and so getting my hands on second-hand Pioneer drives with older firmware is not a problem.
- I use macOS

I'm looking to get a BDR-XD07J-UHD (should just be the Japanese version of the BDR-XD07UHD) with a manufacturing date on the back of the drive that reads March 2018.

Would this be a good choice? I would really appreciate if I can get opinions on this.
that would work long as someone didn't update it for you
Thanks for the quick and informative response!

Also, is buying a new BDR-XD08UMB-S a good idea? I don't have any UHD Blu-rays to rip at the moment, so I'd only need it as a feature in the future. I'd want to be able to use MakeMKV to rip some HD Blu-rays though.
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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ama0riko wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:30 am
Billycar11 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:34 am
ama0riko wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:04 am
Hi, this is my first time here so there are probably going to be some spots in my knowledge.

I'm looking to get a Pioneer drive that I can just purchase and will work with ripping pretty much any content.

- I live in Japan and so getting my hands on second-hand Pioneer drives with older firmware is not a problem.
- I use macOS

I'm looking to get a BDR-XD07J-UHD (should just be the Japanese version of the BDR-XD07UHD) with a manufacturing date on the back of the drive that reads March 2018.

Would this be a good choice? I would really appreciate if I can get opinions on this.
that would work long as someone didn't update it for you
Thanks for the quick and informative response!

Also, is buying a new BDR-XD08UMB-S a good idea? I don't have any UHD Blu-rays to rip at the moment, so I'd only need it as a feature in the future. I'd want to be able to use MakeMKV to rip some HD Blu-rays though.

not a good idea you dont know what fw it will come with
best to get a flashed on your know will work
if the pioneer has to new of a fw t cant be flashed at all
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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So to clarify, if it has firmware that is too recent, then it won't be able to be used with MakeMKV to rip any Blu-rays at all?
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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ama0riko wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:28 am
So to clarify, if it has firmware that is too recent, then it won't be able to be used with MakeMKV to rip any Blu-rays at all?
UHD blurays
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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Billycar11 wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:38 am
ama0riko wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:28 am
So to clarify, if it has firmware that is too recent, then it won't be able to be used with MakeMKV to rip any Blu-rays at all?
UHD blurays
Are there any estimates as to how long we could expect to wait for UHD blu-ray ripping to be supported?
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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ama0riko wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:05 pm
Billycar11 wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:38 am
ama0riko wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:28 am
So to clarify, if it has firmware that is too recent, then it won't be able to be used with MakeMKV to rip any Blu-rays at all?
UHD blurays
Are there any estimates as to how long we could expect to wait for UHD blu-ray ripping to be supported?
Weeks to months
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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Saw that Amazon had a S13U in the 'amazon renewed' section and gave it a go as it was discounted and had a chance of being a drive with older firmware.. Annnnd it wasn't. 1.04 Dec 12 2022.

So if you see a Pioneer on Amazon, even the returns, it is probably best to assume it has the bad firmware and don't bother. Only buy from the guys here that have the known-good units.
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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PaulCB wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:01 am
Saw that Amazon had a S13U in the 'amazon renewed' section and gave it a go as it was discounted and had a chance of being a drive with older firmware.. Annnnd it wasn't. 1.04 Dec 12 2022.

So if you see a Pioneer on Amazon, even the returns, it is probably best to assume it has the bad firmware and don't bother. Only buy from the guys here that have the known-good units.
Yeah that one is just one someone sent back for the fw reason most likely
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9400'

wanted to check is it supported
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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mankr1981@gmail.com wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:04 am
LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9400'

wanted to check is it supported
whats the full drive info what fw ver and build date
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X13
Revision: 1.03

Firmware date: 2022-12-12
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 68

BDR-X13UBK
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

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mankr1981@gmail.com wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:19 am
Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X13
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: CDDL300322UC
Firmware date: 2022-12-12
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 68

BDR-X13UBK
No, not currently supported as the firmware is DEC 2022+. You could be waiting quite a while for that to be supported..
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Post by mankr1981@gmail.com »

could you tell which drives are supported, with 4k compatible.
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Post by Coopervid »

There is a list here:

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=19634

Firmware has to be OLDER than Dec. 2022.
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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Post by mankr1981@gmail.com »

could someone help with this drive


Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE BU40N
Revision: 1.02

Firmware date: 2120-12-01 17:16
Bus encryption flags: 1F
Highest AACS version: 68

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible (with patched firmware)
Drive platform: MT1959
Harware support: Yes
Firmware support: No
Firmware type: Original (patched version available)
Firmware version: 1.02
DVD all regions: Possible (with patched firmware)
BD raw data read: Possible (with patched firmware)
BD raw metadata read: Possible (with patched firmware)
Unrestricted read speed: Possible (with patched firmware)
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