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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:57 pm
by MKVtesterB
Billycar11 wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:13 pm
MKVtesterB wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:24 pm
Hi i have new owner of:
Description du pilote PIONEER BD-RW BDR-UD04 USB Device
Date du pilote 21/06/2006
Version du pilote 10.0.22621.1
Fournisseur du pilote Microsoft
Fichier INF cdrom.inf
INF Section cdrom_install
Identification du matériel USBSTOR\CdRomPIONEER_BD-RW___BDR-UD041.14

I'am testing creation of BD+ MKV.

And soon i will test UHD.

is it usefull to install the latest Libredrive compatible firmware?
There is no public way to flash pioneers currently
in fact, I was thinking of an official firmware update.

PS:
I am trying make UHD BladeRunner Zone2 MKV and it seems working (57 minutes!)

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:44 am
by Toscaclarinet
asmcom wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:00 pm

The BDR-212-DBK has a plastic lens, and I have stress tested this model with 300 discs. This is a reason why I do not sell these drives. The failure rate is 12%, whereas the S12-XLT with a glass lens has less than a 1% failure rate. Please save your money.

Asmcom
Old post, but just wondering how can you tell if a Pioneer drive has a glass or plastic lens? Looked through the specs and can't see it anywhere for my 211ebk.

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:09 pm
by asmcom
Toscaclarinet wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:44 am
asmcom wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:00 pm

The BDR-212-DBK has a plastic lens, and I have stress tested this model with 300 discs. This is a reason why I do not sell these drives. The failure rate is 12%, whereas the S12-XLT with a glass lens has less than a 1% failure rate. Please save your money.

Asmcom
Old post, but just wondering how can you tell if a Pioneer drive has a glass or plastic lens? Looked through the specs and can't see it anywhere for my 211ebk.
This information is not on the public domain. Listed in components and spare parts.

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:06 pm
by wyzxvnv
asmcom wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:09 pm
Toscaclarinet wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:44 am
asmcom wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:00 pm

The BDR-212-DBK has a plastic lens, and I have stress tested this model with 300 discs. This is a reason why I do not sell these drives. The failure rate is 12%, whereas the S12-XLT with a glass lens has less than a 1% failure rate. Please save your money.

Asmcom
Old post, but just wondering how can you tell if a Pioneer drive has a glass or plastic lens? Looked through the specs and can't see it anywhere for my 211ebk.
This information is not on the public domain. Listed in components and spare parts.
Hello. And what about BDR-212EBK? Plastic or glass? Thanks

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:59 am
by Coopervid
Only the 212DBK uses a plastic lens.

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:22 pm
by asmcom
Coopervid wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:59 am
Only the 212DBK uses a plastic lens.
BDR-212EBK also now use plastic lens

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:36 pm
by zaqqaz6917
asmcom wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:22 pm
Coopervid wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:59 am
Only the 212DBK uses a plastic lens.
BDR-212EBK also now use plastic lens
What kind of lens does the BDR-S13UBK have?
This drive is considered among top tier at present
TIA

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:02 pm
by asmcom
zaqqaz6917 wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:36 pm
asmcom wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:22 pm
Coopervid wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:59 am
Only the 212DBK uses a plastic lens.
BDR-212EBK also now use plastic lens
What kind of lens does the BDR-S13UBK have?
This drive is considered among top tier at present
TIA

I have tested hundreds of Pioneer drives, and I can honestly say the lens plastic or glass does not make a difference on new drives I have tested. Maybe several years later, it might; who knows. I have a BDR-S13UBK, and compared to the BDR-S12UHT, I can not see a difference in performance. I know Coopervid has been doing more advanced testing on burning and further advanced testing maybe this is a question for him as he is an expert in this area.

Asmcom :mrgreen:

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:24 pm
by Coopervid
I confirm. The glass lens might be more precise for burning but for reading I don't see any difference. I understand as a seller you won't sell a drive that is compromized regarding in any direction. The 212DBK however is a good reader. Maybe not the best writer if that is important to you. Anyway - if you are still burning.. Read this. That is resolving most problems with most BD-R and BD burners.

https://forum.redfox.bz/threads/the-lon ... -tl.86133/

Follow the guide for anything >25GB discs.

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:53 pm
by asmcom
Coopervid wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:24 pm
I confirm. The glass lens might be more precise for burning but for reading I don't see any difference. I understand as a seller you won't sell a drive that is compromized regarding in any direction. The 212DBK however is a good reader. Maybe not the best writer if that is important to you. Anyway - if you are still burning.. Read this. That is resolving most problems with most BD-R and BD burners.

https://forum.redfox.bz/threads/the-lon ... -tl.86133/

Follow the guide for anything >25GB discs.
This guide on red fox is very helpful to customers.

Asmcom :mrgreen:

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:19 pm
by Venturer
Do you know if Pioneer BDR-XS08MB-S has glass or plastic lens? It's a premium product!

Thank you!

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:31 pm
by asmcom
Venturer wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:19 pm
Do you know if Pioneer BDR-XS08MB-S has glass or plastic lens? It's a premium product!

Thank you!
I do not have any parts or information on this drive yet as I do not stock this product.

Due to be released in Europe soon with newer firmware again that Pioneer are developing. I believe the next generation firmware coming soon will be more secure again. I am glad I have plenty of stock of drives with the older firmware.

The Europe launch has been delayed due to newer firmware being development with less vendor commands available and newer encryption on the way.

Asmcom :mrgreen:

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:19 pm
by kreth
I just purchased a BDR-XS07UHD, but when I tested it with a UHD Disc that I previously ripped with my older ASUS BW-16D1HT it failed.

Looking at the drive information, I see that it reports LibreDrive as "Possible, not yet enabled"

The drive came installed with Firmware ID05. Do I hold on to it and hope things improve, or return it while I can? I was really looking forward to having a small slim, and portable drive vs my bulky internal drive in an External Enclosure, but I don't want to be out the cost of a drive that doesn't give me what I need.

I am newer to firmware flashing, and it makes me nervous. Looking for some advice.

Drive Information
OS device name: G:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07U
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: CEDL012028UC
Firmware date: 2023-01-06
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 77

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8E21
Firmware version: ID05

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:32 pm
by Billycar11
kreth wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:19 pm
I just purchased a BDR-XS07UHD, but when I tested it with a UHD Disc that I previously ripped with my older ASUS BW-16D1HT it failed.

Looking at the drive information, I see that it reports LibreDrive as "Possible, not yet enabled"

The drive came installed with Firmware ID05. Do I hold on to it and hope things improve, or return it while I can? I was really looking forward to having a small slim, and portable drive vs my bulky internal drive in an External Enclosure, but I don't want to be out the cost of a drive that doesn't give me what I need.

I am newer to firmware flashing, and it makes me nervous. Looking for some advice.

Drive Information
OS device name: G:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07U
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: CEDL012028UC
Firmware date: 2023-01-06
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 77

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8E21
Firmware version: ID05
Can't be flashed.
Makemkv may support it eventually but it could be a while.
If you want a slim pioneer USB now that works I have them in stock ready to ship the xs07

Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:33 am
by i3lue
looks like this drive is currently a no go but I would like confirmation.

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Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07U
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: CEDL011829UC
Firmware date: 2023-01-06
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 76

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8E21
Firmware version: ID05