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Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:40 pm
by Starfire
Hello,
in my old drives I found a Pioneer BDR-S09XLT which I had purchased in 2016. After reading this I had hopes it could be used for reading UHD discs.
So I hooked it up through a spare USB-adapter and ran MakeMKV. The drive is detected but MakeMKV doesn't display any LibreDrive Information - the whole section is just missing - the following is all that is displayed:
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Drive Information
OS device name: R:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S09
Revision: 1.51
Serial number: redacted
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 53
No disc inserted
On other drives I usually get the LibreDrive information even through the drive clearly doesn't support it, e.g. on a LG BD-RE GGW-H20L i get:
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LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, might be supported in future, but not likely soon
Drive platform: RS1013
Firmware version: YL07-00
Is there anything that can be done for the BDR-S09?
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:34 pm
by Billycar11
Starfire wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:40 pm
Hello,
in my old drives I found a Pioneer BDR-S09XLT which I had purchased in 2016. After reading this I had hopes it could be used for reading UHD discs.
So I hooked it up through a spare USB-adapter and ran MakeMKV. The drive is detected but MakeMKV doesn't display any LibreDrive Information - the whole section is just missing - the following is all that is displayed:
Code: Select all
Drive Information
OS device name: R:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S09
Revision: 1.51
Serial number: redacted
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 53
No disc inserted
On other drives I usually get the LibreDrive information even through the drive clearly doesn't support it, e.g. on a LG BD-RE GGW-H20L i get:
Code: Select all
LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, might be supported in future, but not likely soon
Drive platform: RS1013
Firmware version: YL07-00
Is there anything that can be done for the BDR-S09?
Not for UHD
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:55 pm
by CNCisRobot
I have seen the post that said copy the data for a file sdf.bin. Should this file already exist and I add to it or do I need to create it and where would it go? If someone could help clear this up for me please.
Thank you
Darren.
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:12 pm
by zaqqaz6917
Just my two cents:
The Pioneer just seem to have Superior reading/ ripping capabilities compared to the LG at least. I had a disc that neither the internal nor external LG drives could read but the pioneer ripped it just fine
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:31 pm
by bestat
My Pioneer BDR-XS07 does not seem to like UHD disc(s). I have only tried one disc (Puss in Boots-The Last Wish) as all my others are in storage, a long way away. Blu-Ray works fine.
Any advice would be appreciated:
"That should work"
or "<pats user bestat on the head> Silly user, you forgot to... [insert obvious thing that apparently wasn't obvious]"
or "Yeah, known issue... working on it... please stand by..."
iMac Pro, running Ventura 13.2.1
Drive Information
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07
Revision: 1.01
Serial number: [redacted]
Firmware date: 2020-09-03
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 76
LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8E20
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-BDS7
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.01
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:26 am
by hydroptix
bestat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:31 pm
My Pioneer BDR-XS07 does not seem to like UHD disc(s). I have only tried one disc (Puss in Boots-The Last Wish) as all my others are in storage, a long way away. Blu-Ray works fine.
Any advice would be appreciated:
"That should work"
or "<pats user bestat on the head> Silly user, you forgot to... [insert obvious thing that apparently wasn't obvious]"
or "Yeah, known issue... working on it... please stand by..."
iMac Pro, running Ventura 13.2.1
Drive Information
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07
Revision: 1.01
Serial number: [redacted]
Firmware date: 2020-09-03
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 76
LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8E20
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-BDS7
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.01
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
Yep, same here. Just got a Pioneer BDR-XS07S and spits out the Knives Out 4k disc whenever I put it in. Regular Blurays work.
Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS07
Revision: 1.01
Serial number: AFDL005871UC
Firmware date: 2020-09-03
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 63
LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8E20
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-BDS7
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.01
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:34 am
by Coopervid
You have no UHD capable drive.
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:19 am
by outlier
The black BDR-XS07UHD can handle 4K UHD without issue (I don’t recall my firmware version), though sounds like you’ve got the silver BDR-XS07S that isn’t expected to support 4K UHD.
TBD if firmware mods can eventually “fix” that but at this point I think people are still experimenting.
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:53 am
by Billycar11
It's going to be possible to flash those xs07s drive to xs07uhd but you will have to wait a bit
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:56 am
by bestat
Billycar11 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:53 am
It's going to be possible to flash those xs07s drive to xs07uhd but you will have to wait a bit
Ok. Thank you.
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:56 am
by Trevor7
How can I get my XD05S to read 4k UHD?
Drive Information
OS device name: H:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XD05
Revision: 3.00
Serial number:
Firmware date: 2014-07-30
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 66
LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8231
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-XD05
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 3.00/ID34
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
No disc inserted
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:35 pm
by MartyMcNuts
Trevor7 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:56 am
How can I get my XD05S to read 4k UHD?
Drive Information
OS device name: H:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XD05
Revision: 3.00
Serial number:
Firmware date: 2014-07-30
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 66
LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8231
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-XD05
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 3.00/ID34
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
No disc inserted
You don't, unless a flashing tool for Pioneer drives is ever created and released publicly.
Even if that happens, your drive may possibly be too old anyway, since it has firmware from 2014 on it.
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:17 pm
by Coopervid
Like Marty said - very unlikely since your drive is dated 2014. You will need a newer one.
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:40 pm
by Billycar11
there is still a lot to learn about crossflashing pioneers i have a pioneer 208 dbk form 2013 and it can read UHD after flashing
only 2 people in the world probably know the full list of drives that its possible on but the gist of it for now is if the drive platform is 8301+ it probably can see UHD when flashed.
but that does not mean it will be problem free some have lower quality picks ups and they wont rip BD100s or even BD66 marty found this out first hand so even if your drive can see a UHD does not mean it is useful for UHD.
Re: LibreDrive for Pioneer drives
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:59 pm
by Coopervid
Interesting... 209s are capable when crossflashed. This XD05 is quite old.