I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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hesanka
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I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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I have an offer to buy a LG WH14NS40 that was manufactured in November 2015. The label on it says ROM version 1.00, and I also have the S/N for it. Is it possible to know if it supports 4K without physically having it? It's on offer for 40$.
Thanks!
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Re: I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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hesanka wrote:
Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:16 pm
I have an offer to buy a LG WH14NS40 that was manufactured in November 2015. The label on it says ROM version 1.00, and I also have the S/N for it. Is it possible to know if it supports 4K without physically having it? It's on offer for 40$.
Thanks!
You need to ensure the WH14NS40 has SVC NS50. Before you buy, check that:
  • Manufactured after Oct 2015
  • Label on the drive says SVC NS50 (beneath the serial number / barcode)
If it says SVC NS40 it is no good.
Cheers :D
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Re: I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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Great, so I can confirm the drive was manufactured after October 2015 (it was manufactured November 2015) and it indeed stated SVC NS50.

The guy selling it had another identical driver, so I got both for 80$. Unused in the box, since 2015.
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Re: I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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MartyMcNuts wrote:
Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:37 am
hesanka wrote:
Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:16 pm
I have an offer to buy a LG WH14NS40 that was manufactured in November 2015. The label on it says ROM version 1.00, and I also have the S/N for it. Is it possible to know if it supports 4K without physically having it? It's on offer for 40$.
Thanks!
You need to ensure the WH14NS40 has SVC NS50. Before you buy, check that:
  • Manufactured after Oct 2015
  • Label on the drive says SVC NS50 (beneath the serial number / barcode)
If it says SVC NS40 it is no good.
I've just received both drives, both are SVC NS40, both ROM VER. 1.00.
I'll plug one of the drives in today and see how it does.
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hesanka wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:42 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:37 am
hesanka wrote:
Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:16 pm
I have an offer to buy a LG WH14NS40 that was manufactured in November 2015. The label on it says ROM version 1.00, and I also have the S/N for it. Is it possible to know if it supports 4K without physically having it? It's on offer for 40$.
Thanks!
You need to ensure the WH14NS40 has SVC NS50. Before you buy, check that:
  • Manufactured after Oct 2015
  • Label on the drive says SVC NS50 (beneath the serial number / barcode)
If it says SVC NS40 it is no good.
I've just received both drives, both are SVC NS40, both ROM VER. 1.00.
I'll plug one of the drives in today and see how it does.
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Re: I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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Billycar11 wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:26 pm
hesanka wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:42 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:37 am


You need to ensure the WH14NS40 has SVC NS50. Before you buy, check that:
  • Manufactured after Oct 2015
  • Label on the drive says SVC NS50 (beneath the serial number / barcode)
If it says SVC NS40 it is no good.
I've just received both drives, both are SVC NS40, both ROM VER. 1.00.
I'll plug one of the drives in today and see how it does.
Don't you will kill them
MADE A MISTAKE!! Bad typo as they both are NS50... Currently don't have any 4K discs laying around, but out of the box MakeMKV says LibreDrive enabled, with original 1.00 ROM firmware. Does that mean it's 4K friendly?
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Re: I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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hesanka wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:27 pm
Billycar11 wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:26 pm
hesanka wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:42 am


I've just received both drives, both are SVC NS40, both ROM VER. 1.00.
I'll plug one of the drives in today and see how it does.
Don't you will kill them
MADE A MISTAKE!! Bad typo as they both are NS50... Currently don't have any 4K discs laying around, but out of the box MakeMKV says LibreDrive enabled, with original 1.00 ROM firmware. Does that mean it's 4K friendly?
If they say SVC NS50 on the label and MakeMKV shows the MT1959 drive platform, then yes, they should be UHD compatible as is.
Cheers :D
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Re: I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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MartyMcNuts wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:45 am
hesanka wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:27 pm
Billycar11 wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:26 pm

Don't you will kill them
MADE A MISTAKE!! Bad typo as they both are NS50... Currently don't have any 4K discs laying around, but out of the box MakeMKV says LibreDrive enabled, with original 1.00 ROM firmware. Does that mean it's 4K friendly?
If they say SVC NS50 on the label and MakeMKV shows the MT1959 drive platform, then yes, they should be UHD compatible as is.
Great, because that is the case. I'll try to get a 4k disc soon and update.
Thank you very much!
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Re: I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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hesanka wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:47 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:45 am
hesanka wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:27 pm


MADE A MISTAKE!! Bad typo as they both are NS50... Currently don't have any 4K discs laying around, but out of the box MakeMKV says LibreDrive enabled, with original 1.00 ROM firmware. Does that mean it's 4K friendly?
If they say SVC NS50 on the label and MakeMKV shows the MT1959 drive platform, then yes, they should be UHD compatible as is.
Great, because that is the case. I'll try to get a 4k disc soon and update.
Thank you very much!
So without any firmware changes, and a stock 1.00 ROM, it reads UHD. It's quite slow in ripping but it reads out of the box and that's the point.
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Re: I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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hesanka wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:16 pm
hesanka wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:47 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:45 am


If they say SVC NS50 on the label and MakeMKV shows the MT1959 drive platform, then yes, they should be UHD compatible as is.
Great, because that is the case. I'll try to get a 4k disc soon and update.
Thank you very much!
So without any firmware changes, and a stock 1.00 ROM, it reads UHD. It's quite slow in ripping but it reads out of the box and that's the point.
Should read UHD discs at 4x-6x speed. That's normal. The fastest speed UHD can be read is 8x which is on WH16NS60 1.02-MK firmware but they don't really stay at that speed for long. The one good thing about flashing to WH16NS60 1.02-MK firmware is that it does remove the sleep bug.
Cheers :D
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Re: I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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MartyMcNuts wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:38 am
hesanka wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:16 pm
hesanka wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:47 am


Great, because that is the case. I'll try to get a 4k disc soon and update.
Thank you very much!
So without any firmware changes, and a stock 1.00 ROM, it reads UHD. It's quite slow in ripping but it reads out of the box and that's the point.
Should read UHD discs at 4x-6x speed. That's normal. The fastest speed UHD can be read is 8x which is on WH16NS60 1.02-MK firmware but they don't really stay at that speed for long. The one good thing about flashing to WH16NS60 1.02-MK firmware is that it does remove the sleep bug.
So I've ripped a couple UHD and a few HD discs so far. The average I get is 50~60 minutes for UHD (Labyrinth and War Dogs sample test) and 30~40 minutes for HD. It seems to be faster than any other benchmarks I've seen here. But also one of the drives I bought did not cooperate at all with UHD ripping, and the other one works miracles.
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Some details:

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I've seen the drive getting to 30~33 M/s [~7.0x] in some rips.

This is a Lottery Ticket bluray rip benchmark:
23.9GB in ~20 minutes.
Image

And a Parental Guidance benchmark:
31.3GB in ~27 minutes.
Image

Jeff Who Lives At Home benchmark:
~20.2GB in ~10 minutes.
Image

Couples Retreat benchmark:
43.4GB in ~35 minutes:
Image
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hesanka wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:46 pm
Some details:

Image

I've seen the drive getting to 30~33 M/s [~7.0x] in some rips.

This is a Lottery Ticket bluray rip benchmark:
23.9GB in ~20 minutes.
Image

And a Parental Guidance benchmark:
31.3GB in ~27 minutes.
Image

Jeff Who Lives At Home benchmark:
~20.2GB in ~10 minutes.
Image

Couples Retreat benchmark:
43.4GB in ~35 minutes:
Image
That's pretty standard for blu-ray discs.

UHD discs should rip at 4x-6x. Usually around 45 mins for 2 layer discs and around 1hr-1hr20m for 3 layer discs.
Cheers :D
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Re: I'm nervous about buying a late 2015 LG drive - Need help deciding if I should get it

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MartyMcNuts wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 12:37 am
hesanka wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:46 pm
Some details:

Image

I've seen the drive getting to 30~33 M/s [~7.0x] in some rips.

This is a Lottery Ticket bluray rip benchmark:
23.9GB in ~20 minutes.
Image

And a Parental Guidance benchmark:
31.3GB in ~27 minutes.
Image

Jeff Who Lives At Home benchmark:
~20.2GB in ~10 minutes.
Image

Couples Retreat benchmark:
43.4GB in ~35 minutes:
Image
That's pretty standard for blu-ray discs.

UHD discs should rip at 4x-6x. Usually around 45 mins for 2 layer discs and around 1hr-1hr20m for 3 layer discs.
Got it, thank you!
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