Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Discussion of LibreDrive mode, compatible drives and firmwares
jonesthegas
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by jonesthegas »

Hi, think of purchasing Pioneer BDR-S13E-X. I live in the UK. Will this drive come with a firmware compatible with LibreDrive upgrade?

Thanks

Martin
dcoke22
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by dcoke22 »

jonesthegas wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2024 7:25 pm
Hi, think of purchasing Pioneer BDR-S13E-X. I live in the UK. Will this drive come with a firmware compatible with LibreDrive upgrade?

Thanks

Martin
Very likely the firmware that comes on it will be too new to work with MakeMKV. Also, the firmware can't be downgraded. Your best bet is to buy a drive from Asmcom, the seller in the UK.
jonesthegas
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by jonesthegas »

Thank you. I will be buying thanks
Wandering_Smoke
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by Wandering_Smoke »

I just purchased a Pioneer BDR-S13U-X because I had previously read that this was the best drive for UHD disks. It arrived today so I was researching and downloading stuff I needed to flash it..when I read that Pioneer disabled the ability on newer drives. My drive was manufactured on Oct 2023. Do I need to send it back?
Billycar11
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

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Wandering_Smoke wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:20 am
I just purchased a Pioneer BDR-S13U-X because I had previously read that this was the best drive for UHD disks. It arrived today so I was researching and downloading stuff I needed to flash it..when I read that Pioneer disabled the ability on newer drives. My drive was manufactured on Oct 2023. Do I need to send it back?
Sadly yes
But if you want one with old fw I have them see below
Buy a UHD drive from the guide and how to video maker: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831
UHD Drives Guide: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=19634
Auto flash kit $25 Email me for one Billycar5924@gmail.com
pc04mo
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by pc04mo »

Hi, i m new here, wondering whether i can rip the sacd with MakeMKV with the updatest method, below is the info from MakeMKV app:

Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X13U
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: ...........
Firmware date: 2023-08-01
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9401
Firmware version: ID43

Disc Information
Label: DISC1
Timestamp: 2023-07-21 16:50:16
Data capacity: 2.29 Gb
Disc type: DVD-ROM
Disc size: 120mm
Number of layers: 1 (PTP)

Tough i knew that ain't happen, and is big difference between old sony blu-way plyer from this advanced cd rom
Appreciated with any suggestion. :D :D :D
Billycar11
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

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pc04mo wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:39 pm
Hi, i m new here, wondering whether i can rip the sacd with MakeMKV with the updatest method, below is the info from MakeMKV app:

Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X13U
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: ...........
Firmware date: 2023-08-01
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9401
Firmware version: ID43

Disc Information
Label: DISC1
Timestamp: 2023-07-21 16:50:16
Data capacity: 2.29 Gb
Disc type: DVD-ROM
Disc size: 120mm
Number of layers: 1 (PTP)

Tough i knew that ain't happen, and is big difference between old sony blu-way plyer from this advanced cd rom
Appreciated with any suggestion. :D :D :D
You could never rip SACD with makemkv and probably never will be able to.

Also that drive will never rip SACD as well as most drives some early ps3's can and if you jailbreak it with cfw or hen you could rip it.

Btw your pioneer fw is to new to do UHD if you want one with old fw see below
Buy a UHD drive from the guide and how to video maker: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831
UHD Drives Guide: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=19634
Auto flash kit $25 Email me for one Billycar5924@gmail.com
kcaudiovideo
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by kcaudiovideo »

Thanks, will check out your drives. What's the easiest way to check the FW on these drives? Do I have to download the Windows FW updater or does MakeMKV show the FW on these drives or another way?

Also does the serial number or date of manf. give some kind of indication on the ability to rip?
Billycar11
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by Billycar11 »

pc04mo wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:39 pm
Hi, i m new here, wondering whether i can rip the sacd with MakeMKV with the updatest method, below is the info from MakeMKV app:

Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X13U
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: ...........
Firmware date: 2023-08-01
in bold above
thats the FW date needs to be before 12/22 on pioneer.

do not download a fw updater you will only be worse off.
Buy a UHD drive from the guide and how to video maker: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831
UHD Drives Guide: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=19634
Auto flash kit $25 Email me for one Billycar5924@gmail.com
pc04mo
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by pc04mo »

Billycar11 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:58 pm
pc04mo wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:39 pm
Hi, i m new here, wondering whether i can rip the sacd with MakeMKV with the updatest method, below is the info from MakeMKV app:

Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X13U
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: ...........
Firmware date: 2023-08-01
in bold above
thats the FW date needs to be before 12/22 on pioneer.

do not download a fw updater you will only be worse off.
Well to know and appreciated with your feedback :D :D :D
tommik128
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by tommik128 »

I have noticed yesterday that all Pioneer optical drives are now showing "currently unavailable" on Amazon UK. A few days back you could buy up to 30 pieces per model. Certainly did not sell out, but some king of earthquake must have happened. It was one of the very few places in UK/Europe where you could buy them.
Tankerhank
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by Tankerhank »

Read a few posts where some say not anything after 12/22 and others saying 12/22 or later

I bought a Pioneer BDR-S13UBK with the 12-12-22 date (It does blu-ray just fine.) so I am gather this drive will not work for a firmware update for UHD.

Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S13U
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: [redacted]
Firmware date: 2022-12-12
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 81

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9201
Firmware version: ID43

~~
Call this a 2 part question.

I also own the LG WH16NS40 manufactures in 2021, no firmware updates. For this one if I could get pointed in the correction direction for updating this firmware to run UHD on MKV I would appreciate.

Like said I do appreciate
Billycar11
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by Billycar11 »

Tankerhank wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:30 pm
Read a few posts where some say not anything after 12/22 and others saying 12/22 or later

I bought a Pioneer BDR-S13UBK with the 12-12-22 date (It does blu-ray just fine.) so I am gather this drive will not work for a firmware update for UHD.

Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S13U
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: [redacted]
Firmware date: 2022-12-12
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 81

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9201
Firmware version: ID43

~~
Call this a 2 part question.

I also own the LG WH16NS40 manufactures in 2021, no firmware updates. For this one if I could get pointed in the correction direction for updating this firmware to run UHD on MKV I would appreciate.

Like said I do appreciate
Return the pioneer it can't do UHD.
I have some pioneers with old fw if you want one see below.

The LG can be flashed see guide below or email me for a flasher
Buy a UHD drive from the guide and how to video maker: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831
UHD Drives Guide: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=19634
Auto flash kit $25 Email me for one Billycar5924@gmail.com
backdash
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by backdash »

Most drives are available again on Amazon.
Probably not UHD friendly, but available again.

I sent a query to Pioneer asking why no drive was available and have not yet received a response. Very strange.
d00zah
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Re: Pioneer firmware update February 2023

Post by d00zah »

backdash wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:25 pm
Most drives are available again on Amazon.
Probably not UHD friendly, but available again.

I sent a query to Pioneer asking why no drive was available and have not yet received a response. Very strange.
I'm betting a statement from Pioneer will not be forthcoming, as they deliberately crippled compatibility.

Pioneer firmware update February 2023
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