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uhd4k wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:48 pm

Hi.
What are the pros/cons of getting an
LG BP60NB10 (UHD Official External Slim 9.5mm USB 2.0 | Rip speed 6x BD 66 ~45 mins BD 100 ~1 hour 5mins)
vs
LG WH16NS40 (UHD Friendly Internal 5.25 sata | Rip speed 8x BD 66 ~45 mins BD 100 ~1 hour if flashed properly) + Vantec NexStar DX2 USB3 enclosure
?

As written above, I know the physical size of the BP60NB10 is much smaller and that the rip speed of the WH16NS40 is just slightly higher.
What else should I consider?
Is one of them more reliable than the other?
Is one of them more noisy than the other?

Thanks!

MartyMcNuts wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 06, 2025 2:08 am

Both suck but if you must, then the BP60NB10 is more reliable and even though the rip speed is 6x max vs 8x max for the NS40, it does mantain that 6x speed for longer, whereas the NS40 may reach 6x-8x in spurts but the majority of a rip is generally 4x-6x.

uhd4k wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 06, 2025 6:41 am

MartyMcNuts wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 06, 2025 2:08 am

Both suck but if you must, then the BP60NB10 is more reliable and even though the rip speed is 6x max vs 8x max for the NS40, it does mantain that 6x speed for longer, whereas the NS40 may reach 6x-8x in spurts but the majority of a rip is generally 4x-6x.

Can you please elaborate why both suck?
Thanks.

The lower end Pioneer drives (such as BDR-212V and Verbatim 43890) can still be sourced in stores

uhd4k wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:24 pm

The lower end Pioneer drives (such as BDR-212V and Verbatim 43890) can still be sourced in stores

Do you mean that if I manage to buy one of these then I'm good?
Or do you mean that I also have to be lucky enough to end up with one that has an old FW, and that I might get a higher FW and be completely screwed?

As I'm trying to stay on a budget, is there a recommended drive that I can get in stores, preferably from Amazon (without a chance of getting a version that will not allow me to rip UHD Bluray discs or replace the FW)?

Thanks.

uhd4k wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:04 pm

So basically Pioneer "UHD friendly" drives read UHD bluray discs more reliably than LG Official UHD drives?
That sounds insane.

Billycar11 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:02 pm

uhd4k wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:04 pm

So basically Pioneer "UHD friendly" drives read UHD bluray discs more reliably than LG Official UHD drives?
That sounds insane.

yes pioneers are way better at reading hard to read disc
but you would never know unless you also have an lg/asus that would struggle with it

uhd4k wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:11 pm

Do you mean that some percentage of LG drives would struggle or that all LG drives would struggle?
Also, I assume that drives that are worse at reading discs (i.e. LG drives) are probably worse at writing discs as well, or is writing a different story?

uhd4k wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:24 pm

Yeah, I'll probably do little to no burning too.
So basically outside of buying from someone in the forum*, my best option is BDR-212V (which is only "UHD friendly")
Is there another Pioneer or other recommended drive that I can buy from regular retailers?

*Basically from asmcom since he's the only one that ships worldwide, but he also seems to almost always be on vacation (and the prices would not be cheap)

Thanks.