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Can the Pioneer BDR-X12UBK be used for UHD or should I get another drive for UHDs?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:42 am
by JohnJacob
I have a Pioneer BDR-X12UBK and it Plays/Rips 1080p Blurays fine under Linux, however if I put a UHD disc in it doesn't recognize the disc was put in (even though it says it supports BDXL quad layer, I tried a couple). I read you usually have to flash the firmware on a bluray drive to be able rip UHDs (not sure about just detecting a UHD disc). It's original firmware is from 2020, is it flash-able? I saw a warning about drives dated 2020. Or should I look into getting a different model drive for backing up UHD?
I'm considering buying a 4k of a film soon and unfortunately they don't bundle it with a standard bluray. I don't yet have a dedicated 4k player or even display. I'm just wanting to future-proof before it's out of print, if I do get the 4k version I'll need to play/rip it on a computer to even view it. I already have some 4k discs that have came in bundles with standard bluray, so even if I have to get another drive it's probably worth it to have the ability to back up those as well.
Re: Can the Pioneer BDR-X12UBK be used for UHD or should I get another drive for UHDs?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:08 pm
by MartyMcNuts
JohnJacob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:42 am
I have a Pioneer BDR-X12UBK and it Plays/Rips 1080p Blurays fine under Linux, however if I put a UHD disc in it doesn't recognize the disc was put in (even though it says it supports BDXL quad layer, I tried a couple). I read you usually have to flash the firmware on a bluray drive to be able rip UHDs (not sure about just detecting a UHD disc). It's original firmware is from 2020, is it flash-able? I saw a warning about drives dated 2020. Or should I look into getting a different model drive for backing up UHD?
I'm considering buying a 4k of a film soon and unfortunately they don't bundle it with a standard bluray. I don't yet have a dedicated 4k player or even display. I'm just wanting to future-proof before it's out of print, if I do get the 4k version I'll need to play/rip it on a computer to even view it. I already have some 4k discs that have came in bundles with standard bluray, so even if I have to get another drive it's probably worth it to have the ability to back up those as well.
To read/rip UHD it will most likely require flashing. Please post the MakeMKV drive info & libredrive info sections so we can check for you.
Re: Can the Pioneer BDR-X12UBK be used for UHD or should I get another drive for UHDs?
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:50 am
by JohnJacob
MartyMcNuts wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:08 pm
JohnJacob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:42 am
I have a Pioneer BDR-X12UBK and it Plays/Rips 1080p Blurays fine under Linux, however if I put a UHD disc in it doesn't recognize the disc was put in (even though it says it supports BDXL quad layer, I tried a couple). I read you usually have to flash the firmware on a bluray drive to be able rip UHDs (not sure about just detecting a UHD disc). It's original firmware is from 2020, is it flash-able? I saw a warning about drives dated 2020. Or should I look into getting a different model drive for backing up UHD?
I'm considering buying a 4k of a film soon and unfortunately they don't bundle it with a standard bluray. I don't yet have a dedicated 4k player or even display. I'm just wanting to future-proof before it's out of print, if I do get the 4k version I'll need to play/rip it on a computer to even view it. I already have some 4k discs that have came in bundles with standard bluray, so even if I have to get another drive it's probably worth it to have the ability to back up those as well.
To read/rip UHD it will most likely require flashing. Please post the MakeMKV drive info & libredrive info sections so we can check for you.
Sorry for the late reply I noticed some of my WB DVDs from 2007 were failing, so I had to move some files around to have room to back up up any surviving WB DVDs. Here is the output of makemkvs drive info
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Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X12
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: ...
Firmware date: 2020-08-05
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 66
LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS9000
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-X12T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.03/ID56
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
No disc inserted
It's a USB Bluray drive if that makes any difference
Re: Can the Pioneer BDR-X12UBK be used for UHD or should I get another drive for UHDs?
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:38 pm
by Coopervid
JohnJacob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:50 am
MartyMcNuts wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:08 pm
JohnJacob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:42 am
I have a Pioneer BDR-X12UBK and it Plays/Rips 1080p Blurays fine under Linux, however if I put a UHD disc in it doesn't recognize the disc was put in (even though it says it supports BDXL quad layer, I tried a couple). I read you usually have to flash the firmware on a bluray drive to be able rip UHDs (not sure about just detecting a UHD disc). It's original firmware is from 2020, is it flash-able? I saw a warning about drives dated 2020. Or should I look into getting a different model drive for backing up UHD?
I'm considering buying a 4k of a film soon and unfortunately they don't bundle it with a standard bluray. I don't yet have a dedicated 4k player or even display. I'm just wanting to future-proof before it's out of print, if I do get the 4k version I'll need to play/rip it on a computer to even view it. I already have some 4k discs that have came in bundles with standard bluray, so even if I have to get another drive it's probably worth it to have the ability to back up those as well.
To read/rip UHD it will most likely require flashing. Please post the MakeMKV drive info & libredrive info sections so we can check for you.
Sorry for the late reply I noticed some of my WB DVDs from 2007 were failing, so I had to move some files around to have room to back up up any surviving WB DVDs. Here is the output of makemkvs drive info
Code: Select all
Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X12
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: ...
Firmware date: 2020-08-05
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 66
LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS9000
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-X12T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.03/ID56
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
No disc inserted
It's a USB Bluray drive if that makes any difference
Check your PM.
Re: Can the Pioneer BDR-X12UBK be used for UHD or should I get another drive for UHDs?
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:12 am
by JohnJacob
Coopervid wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:38 pm
JohnJacob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:50 am
MartyMcNuts wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:08 pm
To read/rip UHD it will most likely require flashing. Please post the MakeMKV drive info & libredrive info sections so we can check for you.
Sorry for the late reply I noticed some of my WB DVDs from 2007 were failing, so I had to move some files around to have room to back up up any surviving WB DVDs. Here is the output of makemkvs drive info
Code: Select all
Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X12
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: ...
Firmware date: 2020-08-05
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 66
LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS9000
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-X12T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.03/ID56
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
No disc inserted
It's a USB Bluray drive if that makes any difference
Check your PM.
Just make I do it right. Is Windows 10 okay? Instructions say 95 or NT 4.0 (my laptop still has a small Window 10 partition installed, my desktop only has Debian 12). If I need a specific version of Windows is virtualbox okay or should I use qemu? (I'm more familiar with Virtualbox, but I have used qemu a bit)
Re: Can the Pioneer BDR-X12UBK be used for UHD or should I get another drive for UHDs?
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 4:31 pm
by Coopervid
JohnJacob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:12 am
Coopervid wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:38 pm
JohnJacob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:50 am
Sorry for the late reply I noticed some of my WB DVDs from 2007 were failing, so I had to move some files around to have room to back up up any surviving WB DVDs. Here is the output of makemkvs drive info
Code: Select all
Drive Information
OS device name: /dev/sr1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X12
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: ...
Firmware date: 2020-08-05
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 66
LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS9000
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-X12T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.03/ID56
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
No disc inserted
It's a USB Bluray drive if that makes any difference
Check your PM.
Just make I do it right. Is Windows 10 okay? Instructions say 95 or NT 4.0 (my laptop still has a small Window 10 partition installed, my desktop only has Debian 12). If I need a specific version of Windows is virtualbox okay or should I use qemu? (I'm more familiar with Virtualbox, but I have used qemu a bit)
Windows 10 is fine.