pioneer BDR-212U & BDR-XS07TUHD : makemkv & libredrive & bluray UHD backups

[bestofcomputer]

hi.
i have pioneer drives (4K play back capable) :
- internal : BDR-212UBK (firmware 1.0)
- USB : BDR-XS07TUHD (firmware 1.01)
my internal drive is used on a windows pro 11 23h2 PC with AMD Ryzen 7 5800X CPU (no SGX) and Nvidia 4060 Ti GPU and with 64 GB RAM.
my USB drive is used on a windows pro 11 23h2 PC with Intel core i7 10750H CPU (with SGX) and Nvidia 1650 Ti GPU and with 16 GB RAM.
I have also powerdvd 20 and dvdfab passkey UHD and anydvd DVD and elby cloneBD and elby cloneDVD2 and easefab losslesscopy.
my drives are set by default to region 2/B.
i would like to backup my DVD + my Bluray + my Bluray 4K movies that i bought, on my PC, either as ISO images or as MKV/MP4 files.
i would like to keep same image resolution and audio definition (dolby/dts) and channels (2.0/5.1) with the languages and subtitles I need as in the originals.
as an option, with a third party tool (driver passkey, for example), i would be happy to have the possibility to remove all protections while doing those backups.
but my main questions are :
- are my 2 drives compatible with makemkv and libredrive (on my 2 PC) ?
- are my 2 CPU (AMD & Intel) and windows pro 11 23h2 compatible with makemkv and libredrive ?
- can I use makemkv and libredrive with my 2 drives on my 2 PC to do my backups like I described above ?
- how to do those backups with makemkv and libredrive, and with what others tools (passkey ? others in my list above ?) ?
- and in particular how to do all those backups without any protections (for personal use) ?
- should I upgrade my drives' firmwares (or never) ?
- should I use another PC (or another CPU ?) ?
- or else, what others drives should I use and/or buy (with which firmware ?), and what others tools should I use and/or buy ?
thanks.

[Billycar11]

yes both work with makemkv to back up dvd bd and UHD with that old fw

makemkv is lossless so no need to worry

cpu dont matter

yes

you can do the folder backup and just check the decrypt box

never upgrate the fw

nah use whatever pc

you can get a s13 series drive from me with old fw if you want but its not needed see below for that.

pioneer drives dont work with dvdfab for UHD only makemkv and Xreveal
but pioneers are the Best UHD drives you can get way less read errors and longer lifespan than lg/asus drives

[bestofcomputer]

i have used dvdfab passkey with my pioneer on a bluray film, and it worked.
i have not tried with a bluray uhd film yet.
if it does not work, you tell me to use xreveal instead ?
xreavel needs cached bd+ tables and keydb.cfg and libdvdcss-2.dll.
i have found some of them, so will it work ?
i will try.
why dvdfab passkey would not work on my pioneer ?
thanks.

[Billycar11]

i have used dvdfab passkey with my pioneer on a bluray film, and it worked.
i have not tried with a bluray uhd film yet.
if it does not work, you tell me to use xreveal instead ?
xreavel needs cached bd+ tables and keydb.cfg and libdvdcss-2.dll.
i have found some of them, so will it work ?
i will try.
why dvdfab passkey would not work on my pioneer ?
thanks.

Works but not for UHD