Drive to Rip/BackUp my CD collection without leave scratches?

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ziggyspider
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Drive to Rip/BackUp my CD collection without leave scratches?

Post by ziggyspider »

I bet this is a common question, people looking for the best drives in 2022 to rip discs?

Scenario
I'm a music/movies collector that have a valuable music CD collection (hard to fin titles in mint condition). Also I collect Movies boutique labels DVD/BluRay/4K UHD (Criterion, Indicator, Arrow, Vinegar Syndrome etc.). The condition matters to me, I don't want scratch my discs by any means! I want keep everything as I bought it.

I'm a mac user and I want rip all my CD collection to AIFF with XLD https://tmkk.undo.jp/xld/index_e.html

I buy this enclosure and CD/DVD Drive around 2018:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MRUN0HQ/re ... tv-20&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0033 ... UTF8&psc=1

Scratches

The problem is that I notice the drive or the enclosure or the match of both, scratch my CDs! I can't allow that! again the condition matters a lot to me! so I stop to use it.

Sometimes the drive sounds strange, please watch this: https://mega.nz/fm/TFZVUQAC that sound sounds rude, I feel that's when scratch the discs, leaves some circular marks on.

Looking for a new drive
So of course I need another drive? I'm not an expert on this, so this is why I need your help, my questions are:

Questions
1. There's a single drive that can rip 4K UHD, BluRay, DVD and CDs? basically all the main formats, without affect the quality of the rips of each? or I need to buy one for ONLY CDs and other for 4K UHD BluRays? you got my point? I mean, maybe one drive is the one to just rip music cds and other to just movies.

2. The big question, so which drive or drives to buy to avoid scratches get proper rips? Brand / Model please!

3. There's a new model of the enclosure https://www.amazon.com/External-Enclosu ... B09SS74KCN I should buy it or keep the previous model that I have, maybe the problem is the drive and not the enclosure?

4. I need a enclosure/drive combo, or there's only one unit ready to use? I don't like slot loading drives, those can leave scratchs on discs.

5. I don't understand this: https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread ... uracy-2022 based on that I need to buy the top on the list drive?

6. Important: There's drives that have better features to make proper better CD rips? All rips are not the same? you know like support C2 and things like that?

so this: Drive: HL-DT-ST - BD-RE BH14NS48 (116 users): Submissions: 10260 accurate, 23 inaccurate, 99.7763 % accuracy

so based on that number, is this: https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/ELECTRONI ... B00B1LW3UC only available on Japan?

Overall I'm confused about that accuracy list, that list means those are the better drives to top rip music CDs?

Please help, I really need backup my collection without damage my discs!!!

Thank You
dcoke22
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Re: Drive to Rip/BackUp my CD collection without leave scratches?

Post by dcoke22 »

Ultimate UHD Drives Flashing Guide is the post on this forum with the list of drives that support UHD ripping. As far as I know, all of those drives will rip CDs, DVDs, Blu-rays, and UHDs. I have 3 drives on that list and they certainly rip all that stuff. None of them has scratched any of my discs to my knowledge.

If you have a drive that is scratching discs, it is probably a drive problem and not an enclosure problem.

I don't really understand that accuracy list either. It seems to be a list based on data collected by the AccurateRip program, which I have not used.

These days, from an MakeMKV ripping perspective, the best drives are probably the Pioneers or the LG BU40N.
ziggyspider
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Re: Drive to Rip/BackUp my CD collection without leave scratches?

Post by ziggyspider »

talking about Pioneer, I found this ones that seems openly ready to UHD (no firmware problems and things like that)

https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA ... BDR-S13U-X
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA ... BDR-X13U-S
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA ... BDR-S13UBK

too expensive? waste of money? thoughts?

note: I'll go to read the threat.
dcoke22
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Re: Drive to Rip/BackUp my CD collection without leave scratches?

Post by dcoke22 »

I have a Pioneer BDR-212UBK and it has worked well for me with MakeMKV. I don't recall using it to rip CDs, although I'm sure it could. I do rip CDs still, like the old that I am, but I usually use a different drive on my desk for it, only because it is slightly easier to reach.
ziggyspider
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Re: Drive to Rip/BackUp my CD collection without leave scratches?

Post by ziggyspider »

dcoke22 wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:45 am
I have a Pioneer BDR-212UBK and it has worked well for me with MakeMKV. I don't recall using it to rip CDs, although I'm sure it could. I do rip CDs still, like the old that I am, but I usually use a different drive on my desk for it, only because it is slightly easier to reach.
it seems it this: https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-BDR-212D ... 13d670b6bc

it can rip 4K UHD without firmware problems? you know they block rip 4K UHD on a firmware and things like that.
dcoke22
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Re: Drive to Rip/BackUp my CD collection without leave scratches?

Post by dcoke22 »

The item you linked to is a Pioneer BDR-212DBK which is different from the BDR-212UBK. Pioneer has a lot of model numbers that seem very similar but are quite different. The DBK doesn't support UHD.

The first post on the flashing guide is well maintained and has the most up-to-date list of recommended drives.
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