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jmonier
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Re: UHD drives

#106 Post by jmonier » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:33 pm

sofakng wrote:Is the ASUS BW-16D1HT still the best drive to buy?

I'm tempted by the WH16NS40 for only $50 (and it has a faster BD-ROM readspeed)...
Note that the BW-16D1HT and the W/BH16NS40 are exactly the same hardware (except for the bezel and labels). You can load the Asus firmware (up to 3.02) into the LG and you then have the same thing as the Asus.

Note also that when you buy buy the Asus you will probably get a manufacture date of Dec 2016 or Jan 2017. With the LG it will be much more recent.
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sofakng
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Re: UHD drives

#107 Post by sofakng » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:43 pm

Thanks much for the information.

Should I just go for whichever is cheaper then? I thought with the LG you need to get a specific revision as well...
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Re: UHD drives

#108 Post by jmonier » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:22 pm

sofakng wrote:Should I just go for whichever is cheaper then? I thought with the LG you need to get a specific revision as well...
I believe (but don't know for sure) that you need the "NS50" version (not to be confused with the "NS40" in the model no. - they're not related). I believe that it refers to a hardware revision. Probably (but again I don't know for sure) only that version will accept the Asus firmware.

If I were you, I would definitely go for the LG. I already had an LG that I bought six months ago and that now works perfectly with he Asus firmware, so I could have saved the extra money that I spent on the Asus (which had a much earlier build date than the LG).

Whatever you do, don't upgrade the firmware of either to the .03 version (LG - 1.03, Asus - 3.03). That's the one that kills the drive for our purposes (and note that the Asus comes with that version on the enclosed disk).
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sofakng
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Re: UHD drives

#109 Post by sofakng » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:03 pm

Hmmm... what are the chances of getting the correct revision of the LG drive?
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Re: UHD drives

#110 Post by Netmanca » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:57 pm

sofakng wrote:Hmmm... what are the chances of getting the correct revision of the LG drive?
I'll let you know, mines due to arrive today from NewEgg
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Re: UHD drives

#111 Post by TeddyRaspin » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:01 pm

It is always possible to do a firmware downgrade, so I wouldn't worry about which revision/firmware comes on a new LG drive.
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starmax
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Re: UHD drives

#112 Post by starmax » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:22 pm

I think its the SVC code everyone's worried about.
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Netmanca
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Re: UHD drives

#113 Post by Netmanca » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:55 pm

Netmanca wrote:
sofakng wrote:Hmmm... what are the chances of getting the correct revision of the LG drive?
I'll let you know, mines due to arrive today from NewEgg

I can confirm I did get a sv50 unit with a date of manufacture of august 2017. looks like it might be refurb units mine came in bubble wrap only with no documentation
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Re: UHD drives

#114 Post by starmax » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:13 pm

Netmanca wrote:I can confirm I did get a sv50 unit with a date of manufacture of august 2017. looks like it might be refurb units mine came in bubble wrap only with no documentation
Maybe, maybe not. Lots of "OEM" drives just come in a plastic bag. If you go by a place like Microcenter, they have a bin full of "new" DVD drives in plastic bags. Good to hear about the SVC code, thank you!!
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rivey
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Re: UHD drives

#115 Post by rivey » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:39 pm

TeddyRaspin wrote:It is always possible to do a firmware downgrade, so I wouldn't worry about which revision/firmware comes on a new LG drive.
My new LG WH16NS40 Service Code NS50 arrived today and it has ver. 1.03.
So the question is should I downgrade the firmware to 1.01 or 1.02 or crossflash to the Asus ver. 3.01 or 2.
Then the next question is how to do each one? Haven't found clear instructions on cross flashing or for that matter for downgrading the LG firmware.
Thanks in advance.
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Woodstock
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Re: UHD drives

#116 Post by Woodstock » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:41 pm

I'd recommend doing some test rips before getting into firmware flashing. My LG worked right out of the box, so I haven't worried about it.
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Re: UHD drives

#117 Post by SamuriHL » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:18 am

It's certainly not going to with 1.03 on it if you're looking to use it for UHD.
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Re: UHD drives

#118 Post by rivey » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:47 am

Woodstock wrote:I'd recommend doing some test rips before getting into firmware flashing. My LG worked right out of the box, so I haven't worried about it.
Tried that first. Will not see UHD discs. Does rip normal bluray of course. That is why I want to either cross flash or downgrade the LG to 1.02 or 1.01.
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Re: UHD drives

#119 Post by rivey » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:19 am

rivey wrote:
Woodstock wrote:I'd recommend doing some test rips before getting into firmware flashing. My LG worked right out of the box, so I haven't worried about it.
Tried that first. Will not see UHD discs. Does rip normal bluray of course. That is why I want to either cross flash or downgrade the LG to 1.02 or 1.01.
Tried reflashing the firmware from 1.03 down to 1.01 and it fails with this message "Checksum is mismatched. Drive will go to boot mode Please retry again".

Obviously this is a firmware issue, and I have tried to find out how to deal with it but nothing I have found works. Don't know if it matters, but the PC is win10. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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starmax
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Re: UHD drives

#120 Post by starmax » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:24 am

Check page 6 of this thread:

http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic ... 5&start=75
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