Question of legitimacy on these

[J01001111]

Anyone have any insight on to whether these are genuine or fakes?

Thinking of ordering but would like opinions about whether they may be fakes. Thanks guys

https://www.ebay.com/itm/358045694960?_ ... earch=true

[Coopervid]

Anyone have any insight on to whether these are genuine or fakes?

Thinking of ordering but would like opinions about whether they may be fakes. Thanks guys

https://www.ebay.com/itm/358045694960?_ ... earch=true

Most likely fake. The shape of the sheet metal housing doesn't look like it's from a Pioneer drive.

[DennisOlof]

@J01001111 the problem is that not only are there fake drives, you can not trust that the pictures they post on Ebay are genuine. It is not uncommon that scammers (or nasty people) sell you a genuine device or another brand similar to what the pictures show but when you get the device it could be older model, other hardware rebranded as pioneer etc. That way even if you say it is fake and try to get your money back it is hard to win that process because the did send you the device it was just not the device you wanted.

The probability of getting a genuine drive is higher if you select a older model as I suspect it is the newer units that are most likely to be fake.

Not all of them are fake but few are genuine devices. Unless you can buy it in person and check the unit before handing over money it is hard to know if you are buying from a honest seller. Don't forget that also scam genuine business who resell electronics etc. it happens I am sure of it.

If you want a genuine drive buy from Asmcom here in the forum, at least if you are looking for a Pioneer drive. Asus and LG devices are probably not fake but these units are not in high demand and you can buy them from other locations than China.

[uhd_burner_25]

I think it depends on what you mean by fake. I purchased 2 drives listed as BDR-S11JX with a different faceplate but the same copied label as the one you linked "PIOHEER CORPORATION" etc...

MakeMKV lists them as:

Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S11
Revision: 1.5
Firmware date: 2020-08-03
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 77

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8800
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-211
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.53/ID43

I was also able up update them with the official Pioneer BD Drive Utility which was confirmed by changing the setting for "smooth tray loading mode". So whatever they are, they appear to have official Pioneer innards.

I tested them with Blu-ray and UHD Blu-ray before putting them in storage so I can't speak to the longevity, but I would assume they are typical Pioneers. Mine did come physically damaged by shipping however and I needed to take them apart to snap some parts back into position. Everything is working now, but YMMV.