¿Can the PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209D read TRIPLE LAYER M-DISC or normal BD TL disc?

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deadoralive
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¿Can the PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209D read TRIPLE LAYER M-DISC or normal BD TL disc?

Post by deadoralive » Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:11 am

Hi!

I know this forum is about UHD movie ripping and firmwares that allow you to read UHD discs without restrictions, I am not interested in movie ripping. I have seen that there are modifications to the firmware of the drives that allow some models to read triple layer UHD discs.

I have a BLU-RAY PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209DBK drive with the 1.51 FIRMWARE version, the PIONEER drive does not recognize my blank or recorded 100 GB triple layer M-DISCs, while my ASUS BW-16D1HT reads and writes 100 GB triple layer M-DISCs on the same PC.
¿Even if it does not write M-DISC TL (100 GB) should it be able to read them if it is a BD-XL drive?

I haven't tried with normal BD TL because I don't have one, but the pioneer drive does read and write normal single layer 25 GB BD's.

My main question is if the drive can read TRIPLE-layer M-DISC discs (100 GB), or if the firmware can be modified to read TL M-DISCS (100 GB).

In the firmware notes it mentions triple layer support in firmware 1.50
https://pioneer.jp/device_e/product-e/i ... BDR-209DBK
Improvement of the recording quality with BD-R TL(2x 4x 6x : MCM)
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This instruction manual also refers to the triple layer, but only associates it with writing, not reading.
https://www.pioneer.com.au/wp-content/u ... 209DBK.pdf
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This pdf alludes to a low version of the firmware where the TL read function was removed.
https://images10.newegg.com/UploadFiles ... 870512.pdf
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The M-DISC website states that it only records M-DISC single layer (25 GB) and DL (50 GB).
https://www.mdisc.com/drive-compatibility.html
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Also say that the website has been out of date for some time and that firmware 1.50 is from 2018.
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While IMGBURN says it does not read or write BD-XL, only single layer (25GB) and dual layer (50GB) blu-ray, which is what the M-DISC website says.
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Re: ¿Can the PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209D read TRIPLE LAYER M-DISC or normal BD TL disc?

Post by Billycar11 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:24 am

deadoralive wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:11 am
Hi!

I know this forum is about UHD movie ripping and firmwares that allow you to read UHD discs without restrictions, I am not interested in movie ripping. I have seen that there are modifications to the firmware of the drives that allow some models to read triple layer UHD discs.

I have a BLU-RAY PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209DBK drive with the 1.51 FIRMWARE version, the PIONEER drive does not recognize my blank or recorded 100 GB triple layer M-DISCs, while my ASUS BW-16D1HT reads and writes 100 GB triple layer M-DISCs on the same PC.
¿Even if it does not write M-DISC TL (100 GB) should it be able to read them if it is a BD-XL drive?

I haven't tried with normal BD TL because I don't have one, but the pioneer drive does read and write normal single layer 25 GB BD's.

My main question is if the drive can read TRIPLE-layer M-DISC discs (100 GB), or if the firmware can be modified to read TL M-DISCS (100 GB).
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Re: ¿Can the PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209D read TRIPLE LAYER M-DISC or normal BD TL disc?

Post by Yethidran » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:11 am

yes if you flash the BDR-209, it will become a BDR-S11 Drive.
my drive was a BDR-209, now its flashed to be a BDR-S11, and imgburn shows its capable of reading and writing BD-XL
i have the 209DBK, 209D and 209M.
all three are now flashed to be S11's.
imgburn reports all 3 are BD-XL capable now.

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Re: ¿Can the PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209D read TRIPLE LAYER M-DISC or normal BD TL disc?

Post by Yethidran » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:20 am

and your firmware will be upgraded to version 1.53

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Re: ¿Can the PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209D read TRIPLE LAYER M-DISC or normal BD TL disc?

Post by deadoralive » Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:08 pm

Yethidran wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:11 am
yes if you flash the BDR-209, it will become a BDR-S11 Drive.
my drive was a BDR-209, now its flashed to be a BDR-S11, and imgburn shows its capable of reading and writing BD-XL
i have the 209DBK, 209D and 209M.
all three are now flashed to be S11's.
imgburn reports all 3 are BD-XL capable now.
Yethidran wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:20 am
and your firmware will be upgraded to version 1.53
Thanks a lot guys!
¿Do you know where I can get the firmware?
¿Do I have to make any modifications to this one?

salute!

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Re: ¿Can the PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209D read TRIPLE LAYER M-DISC or normal BD TL disc?

Post by MartyMcNuts » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:03 pm

deadoralive wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:08 pm
Yethidran wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:11 am
yes if you flash the BDR-209, it will become a BDR-S11 Drive.
my drive was a BDR-209, now its flashed to be a BDR-S11, and imgburn shows its capable of reading and writing BD-XL
i have the 209DBK, 209D and 209M.
all three are now flashed to be S11's.
imgburn reports all 3 are BD-XL capable now.
Yethidran wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:20 am
and your firmware will be upgraded to version 1.53
Thanks a lot guys!
¿Do you know where I can get the firmware?
¿Do I have to make any modifications to this one?

salute!
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Re: ¿Can the PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209D read TRIPLE LAYER M-DISC or normal BD TL disc?

Post by Yethidran » Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:02 am

yes, you have to email billycar11.
it will be charged at USD$25.
i had to pay USD$30 for mine as my "Paypal" had some issues with that particular Paypal app.

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