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question about quality makemkv

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:59 pm
by Toby2k
Hi,

i created the movie Indiana Jones 4K once with makemkv and once with dvdfab. But I got different data about the codec. I see dolbyvision on makemkv, but not on dvdfab. So, doesn't makemkv seem to be doing better? or is it the same?

Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 50.7 GiB
Duration : 1 h 58 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 61.3 Mb/s
Movie name : INDIANA_JONES_AND_THE_TEMPLE_OF_DOOM.Title801
Encoded date : UTC 2021-07-22 17:36:37
Writing application : DVDFab 12.0.3.8
Writing library : libebml v1.3.4 + libmatroska v1.4.5

Video #1
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC

Duration : 1 h 58 min
Bit rate : 53.6 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.270
Stream size : 44.3 GiB (87%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 346 cd/m2

Video #2
ID : 2
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 1 h 58 min
Bit rate : 3 698 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.074
Stream size : 3.06 GiB (6%)
Default : No
Forced : Yes
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2

Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 50.7 GiB
Duration : 1 h 58 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 61.3 Mb/s
Movie name : Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Encoded date : UTC 2021-07-19 07:33:08
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.16.4 darwin(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.16.4 (1.3.10/1.5.2) darwin(x64-release)
Cover : Yes
Attachments : cover.jpg

Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC

Duration : 1 h 58 min
Bit rate : 57.3 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.288
Stream size : 47.4 GiB (93%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 346 cd/m2
Original source medium : Blu-ray

Re: question about quality makemkv

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:18 pm
by shawnc22
dvdfab doesn't support ripping of DV into mkvs as far as I know, so that's the difference

Re: question about quality makemkv

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:11 pm
by rblood01
As I have seen MakeMKV gives a lossless rip ;without any conversions. This is the difference. It appears as DVDFab is altering some of the data as it is doing it's thing. I personally prefer MakeMKV over DVDFab and even AnyDVD (currently) with the results that I have been able to get. (AnyDVD I only used it to make images of the ISOs. I need now to create a movie that is more compatible with Plex and other services and able to be ripped easily into other formats as needed.