Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

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Low Winter Sun
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by Low Winter Sun »

Yep, it's showing, but you have to open up one of the details panels to see it:

Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2 h 17 min
Bit rate : 52.6 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels

jlpsvk wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:43 pm
MediaInfo change log:

Version 20.09, 2020-10-09
-------------
+ Dolby ED2: full featured support (presentations, presentation targets, beds, objects)
+ MKV: support of Dolby Vision metadata
+ MXF: detection of Dolby E hidden in PCM tracks having more than 2 channels
+ WAV: detection of Dolby E hidden in PCM tracks having more than 2 channels
+ CineForm: display of color space (including Bayer), bit depth
x WAV: more precise sample count
x SMPTE ST 337: catch of streams starting later than usual (probing increased from 4 to 16 PCM "frames")
x PNG: detection of additional alpha plane in color space
x MXF: detection of additional alpha plane in color space
x AVI: detection of additional alpha plane in color space
x MPEG Audio: was wrongly flagging Xing info tag as CBR
x VorbisTag: does not skip DISCID
x Miscellaneous bug/crash fixes
jlpsvk
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by jlpsvk »

HDR10 + HDR10+ + DOLBY VISION seems OK also. :)

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Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Bit rate                                 : 77.4 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.389
Stream size                              : 64.3 GiB (100%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 168 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray
Last edited by jlpsvk on Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:26 pm, edited 3 times in total.
jlpsvk
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by jlpsvk »

Low Winter Sun wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:00 pm
Yep, it's showing, but you have to open up one of the details panels to see it
yeah... i have "text" mode by default. :)
manuelrn
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by manuelrn »

Low Winter Sun wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:00 pm
Yep, it's showing, but you have to open up one of the details panels to see it:

Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2 h 17 min
Bit rate : 52.6 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels

jlpsvk wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:43 pm
MediaInfo change log:

Version 20.09, 2020-10-09
-------------
+ Dolby ED2: full featured support (presentations, presentation targets, beds, objects)
+ MKV: support of Dolby Vision metadata
+ MXF: detection of Dolby E hidden in PCM tracks having more than 2 channels
+ WAV: detection of Dolby E hidden in PCM tracks having more than 2 channels
+ CineForm: display of color space (including Bayer), bit depth
x WAV: more precise sample count
x SMPTE ST 337: catch of streams starting later than usual (probing increased from 4 to 16 PCM "frames")
x PNG: detection of additional alpha plane in color space
x MXF: detection of additional alpha plane in color space
x AVI: detection of additional alpha plane in color space
x MPEG Audio: was wrongly flagging Xing info tag as CBR
x VorbisTag: does not skip DISCID
x Miscellaneous bug/crash fixes

If MKVToolNix works without problems then I don't understand this message from Mike.
It should not be necessary to do everything I have marked in red, and "HEVC_MKV" after mkvmerge should be "DV_MKV".
mike admin wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:13 pm
MakeMKV now can open all 4, extract the raw bitstream and produce a proper DV MKV file. So most of the time workflow would be:

.mp4 -> mkvmerge -> crappy_mkv -> makemkv -> DV_MKV -> mkvmerge -> HEVC_MKV -> makemkv -> DV_MKV
shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by shawnc22 »

manuelrn wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:20 pm
If MKVToolNix works without problems then I don't understand this message from Mike.
It should not be necessary to do everything I have marked in red, and "HEVC_MKV" after mkvmerge should be "DV_MKV".
mike admin wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:13 pm
MakeMKV now can open all 4, extract the raw bitstream and produce a proper DV MKV file. So most of the time workflow would be:

.mp4 -> mkvmerge -> crappy_mkv -> makemkv -> DV_MKV -> mkvmerge -> HEVC_MKV -> makemkv -> DV_MKV
If mkvtoolnix is working correctly in preserving DV metadata, then yeah you shouldn't need to reprocess the mkv again through makemkv.

I've also finally had a chance to test the above scenario starting with an mp4 that's dual track dual layer. After processing it through mkvtoolnix to get the crappy_mkv, I can confirm that makemkv will not recognize it as DV. Starting with an mp4 that's single track dual layer does work as expected after the crappy_mkv step. So like others have reported, it doesn't seem like makemkv will recognize an existing mkv that has the BL and EL on separate tracks. Not sure if that's expected behavior, but for the time being, it looks like if you're starting with a DTDL mp4, you will have to first convert to a blu-ray iso/folder structure via tsmuxer before processing with makemkv. Mike, I can send over the mp4 sample I started with if you'd like.
jlpsvk
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by jlpsvk »

maybe some suggestions for 1.15.4...

1) accept raw HEVC stream as input to create DV MKV
2) probably only in expert settins, ability to set DV profile... dvhe.04, dvhe.05, dvhe.07... not every device is accepting dvhe.07, and almost all devices supports profile5... :)

i am getting dvhe.07.00 BL+RPU from stream created with yousesope's tool mode2, not sure, if that's correct
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quietvoid
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by quietvoid »

jlpsvk wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:19 pm
maybe some suggestions for 1.15.4...

1) accept raw HEVC stream as input to create DV MKV
2) probably only in expert settins, ability to set DV profile... dvhe.04, dvhe.05, dvhe.07... not every device is accepting dvhe.07, and almost all devices supports profile5... :)
Profile 5 is a completely different matter, changing the profile doesn't make a device magically compatible.
Though if yusesope's methods are proven useful, that could be cool.
eblackadder
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by eblackadder »

G4n0nD0rf wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:55 am
When remuxing an mkv with a DV FEL as a secondary video track, the resulting file is several GB smaller than the original. The difference in size is roughly the same as the size of the original second video track according to MediaInfo. How is this possible? Where has the FEL data gone? MakeMKV recognizes both the input as the output file as dvhe.07.06 BL+REL+RPU.
I would like to know that too. Hopefully someone knows the answer. Thanks !
ray_007
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by ray_007 »

Is it normal for Makemkv to pause, usually halfway through the process and then resume after like 7-10 minutes?
I am having this issue with all my rips and was wondering if there a known bug or something. I am on 1.15.3 beta trial.
Woodstock
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by Woodstock »

ray_007 wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:32 pm
Is it normal for Makemkv to pause, usually halfway through the process and then resume after like 7-10 minutes?
I am having this issue with all my rips and was wondering if there a known bug or something. I am on 1.15.3 beta trial.
What are you saving to? I've seen this when the cable to my NAS decides to only allow a 100Mb/s connection instead of a gigabit, and MakeMKV fills the network buffer. When it reaches the end of the current title, it waits for the transfer to catch up and the NAS to acknowledge that the file as been written, before moving on to the next file.

7-10 minutes is excessive, though - I have only seen that long when the net connection was limited to 10Mb/s...
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dcoke22
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by dcoke22 »

Could it be that MakeMKV is just going slowly at the edge of the disc as 1.15.3 is supposed to do now?
Drive speed control update - MakeMKV now forces low speed when reading data around disc edges, working around firmware bugs
tazlord
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by tazlord »

I'm curious, is the tool actually embedding the DV color information into the BL stream or is it just adding the metadata to the file so that players will think it's a DV video?
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by zomorf »

Maybe a dumb question but...

If a UHD is only one Video file as in HDR or HDR10 would we need to RERIP? Or versions prior to 1.15.3 be good enough??

EG...
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 47804 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 Profile 5.1 High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR / BT.2020 /

thanks in advance
lata
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phneutral
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by phneutral »

shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:07 pm
phneutral wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:52 pm
Yep that seems by far the easiest option, it's just the first post of this thread and several after say to run ffmpeg or mkvtoolnix

e.g from Mike:
Read the first message in this topic :)

You don't need tsmuxer, nad you don't need ISO file. Just use ffmpeg or mkvtoolnix, then MakeMKV 1.15.3.
hence the confusion. Just trying to make sense of it, seems I'm not the only one who can't get this working. Thanks
Right, and the couple posts right after that showed that it doesn't really work if you start with an mkv that contains the original BL and EL layers in separate tracks. I'm not sure if it's supposed to or if it's just a bug, but it doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. Although, if the method listed in mike's OP works for DV mp4's that likely also has the BL and EL layers in separate tracks, then it should theoretically work for an mkv that has the same structure as well. So maybe try the exact steps outlined in the first post and see how it turns out? The method to create these mkvs in the first place is a bit unorthodox (assuming decrypted folder backup -> mkvtoolsnix to manually select both video tracks), so could be just a ymmv kind of situation.
Alright, I see others are having success with separate tracks by using tsmuxer to create a new iso - so I tried this but unfortunately MakeMKV won't open it, same if I create a blu-ray folder instead, i'm getting this error:

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DEBUG: Code 2 at V_xQ^nN8a$*i g:29405085
DEBUG: Code 0 at V_xQ^nN8a$*i g:29403912
DEBUG: Code 0 at 8p484H Too-'r[U*:121267983
AACS directory not present, assuming unencrypted disc
DEBUG: Code 0 at M!5Nsiq7W[8F|Ha,:121262302
DEBUG: Code 0 at u:_`KHcAwIMr}dO:29401934
DEBUG: Code 0 at 8p484H Too-'r[U*:213116437
Title #00000.m2ts was skipped
Failed to open disc
Are these rips corrupted or am I missing a setting?
Lush78
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

Post by Lush78 »

phneutral wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:53 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:07 pm
phneutral wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:52 pm
Yep that seems by far the easiest option, it's just the first post of this thread and several after say to run ffmpeg or mkvtoolnix

e.g from Mike:



hence the confusion. Just trying to make sense of it, seems I'm not the only one who can't get this working. Thanks
Right, and the couple posts right after that showed that it doesn't really work if you start with an mkv that contains the original BL and EL layers in separate tracks. I'm not sure if it's supposed to or if it's just a bug, but it doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. Although, if the method listed in mike's OP works for DV mp4's that likely also has the BL and EL layers in separate tracks, then it should theoretically work for an mkv that has the same structure as well. So maybe try the exact steps outlined in the first post and see how it turns out? The method to create these mkvs in the first place is a bit unorthodox (assuming decrypted folder backup -> mkvtoolsnix to manually select both video tracks), so could be just a ymmv kind of situation.
Alright, I see others are having success with separate tracks by using tsmuxer to create a new iso - so I tried this but unfortunately MakeMKV won't open it, same if I create a blu-ray folder instead, i'm getting this error:

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DEBUG: Code 2 at V_xQ^nN8a$*i g:29405085
DEBUG: Code 0 at V_xQ^nN8a$*i g:29403912
DEBUG: Code 0 at 8p484H Too-'r[U*:121267983
AACS directory not present, assuming unencrypted disc
DEBUG: Code 0 at M!5Nsiq7W[8F|Ha,:121262302
DEBUG: Code 0 at u:_`KHcAwIMr}dO:29401934
DEBUG: Code 0 at 8p484H Too-'r[U*:213116437
Title #00000.m2ts was skipped
Failed to open disc
Are these rips corrupted or am I missing a setting?
I was able to get it working by creating BluRay iso using txmuxer, but I was getting a ton of AV sync issues in makemkv when creating mkv from said iso.
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