Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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NiCE77 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:58 am
Hi,
Can you create a working DTDL ISO file for this guy?
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/dune-h ... t-60477087
I tried to do it with tsmuxer from the dtdl mp4 file, but it only plays in lite mode on Dune.
Hi, you can try the ISO I made for the mkvtoolnix guy when they implemented DV in mastroka.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HeooI- ... sp=sharing

but didn't they already test DV ISO playback?
Please forgive my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:58 pm
NiCE77 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:58 am
Hi,
Can you create a working DTDL ISO file for this guy?
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/dune-h ... t-60477087
I tried to do it with tsmuxer from the dtdl mp4 file, but it only plays in lite mode on Dune.
Hi, you can try the ISO I made for the mkvtoolnix guy when they implemented DV in mastroka.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HeooI- ... sp=sharing

but didn't they already test DV ISO playback?
Thanks, but I need the same FEL test video like this, but in ISO: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 00#p104113
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NiCE77 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:25 pm

Thanks, but I need the same FEL test video like this, but in ISO: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 00#p104113
ha I see.
since you already tried to remux it with tsmuxer, there's nothing more I can do.
So I assume my fel test mp4 does not play on the Dune player? Maybe it just doesn't support FEL after all because the sample works on fel capable devices( x700 and C8). they should try a genuine DL MEL mp4

it's still early but the Dune does not look promising anymore for FEL support.
Please forgive my English.
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Is the x700 able to play mp4 files that contain DD+ ac3 dolby atmos track?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:47 pm
NiCE77 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:25 pm

Thanks, but I need the same FEL test video like this, but in ISO: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 00#p104113
ha I see.
since you already tried to remux it with tsmuxer, there's nothing more I can do.
So I assume my fel test mp4 does not play on the Dune player? Maybe it just doesn't support FEL after all because the sample works on fel capable devices( x700 and C8). they should try a genuine DL MEL mp4

it's still early but the Dune does not look promising anymore for FEL support.
This is the result on Dune:
- 'test DT DL FEL.iso' (remux with tsmuxer from DTDL mp4) plays fine in HDR if you use the 'Play (Lite)' option. If you use 'Play (Menu)', as in full menu options, the image is very jittery and pixelated, but switch the output to DV!
- 'test DT DL FEL.mp4' plays, switch the output to DV, however just looks like white noise on screen.
- 'test ST DL FEL.mp4' plays as HDR.
- 'test SL P8 RPU.ts' plays as DV.

But all of original, untouched FEL/MEL DTDL ISO files plays fine as DV!
This german post is about that: https://www.android-mediaplayer.de/foru ... post128151
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Question: Is there any quality difference if you encode the same file in Profile 4 vs. 5? My TV only supports 4 and 5 AFAIK. I note that Profile 4 still contains an HDR10 track so I can play it anywhere, but I can only play the Profile 5 file on my TV. Is there any quality improvement in Profile 5? The filesize is the same regardless of profile, but I wonder if the TV decodes it differently.
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Say.. if your TV's Internal Player can play DTDL MP4/TS, STDL MP4/TS
Which one should be given first preference?
It is also possible to add Atmos/DTS audio by extracting the audio as an MP4 file via mkvtoolnix.. so the DTDL mp4 files can also have lossless audio
I am more concerned about the Picture Quality
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:50 am
Is the x700 able to play mp4 files that contain DD+ ac3 dolby atmos track?
yes, but subtitles don't work in MP4 so , just remux with tsmuxer.
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tr000 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:45 am
Question: Is there any quality difference if you encode the same file in Profile 4 vs. 5? My TV only supports 4 and 5 AFAIK. I note that Profile 4 still contains an HDR10 track so I can play it anywhere, but I can only play the Profile 5 file on my TV. Is there any quality improvement in Profile 5? The filesize is the same regardless of profile, but I wonder if the TV decodes it differently.
They are both the wrong profile for an HDR10 base layer so the output might not be accurate.
p4 is a dual-layer profile and p5 is single layer... so if the source is FEL and your TV support it, p4 will be better even if it's the wrong profile for HDR10 BL.
Please forgive my English.
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FIX the x700 DT-DL TS bug with this file
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:39 pm
They are both the wrong profile for an HDR10 base layer so the output might not be accurate.
p4 is a dual-layer profile and p5 is single layer... so if the source is FEL and your TV support it, p4 will be better even if it's the wrong profile for HDR10 BL.
Thanks, I'll use Profile 4 then. I saw in the DV docs that Profile 4 is supposed to have an SDR base layer, but the Profile 4 file played on a regular HDR display looks the same to me as playing that HDR10 HEVC track by itself, so no harm done, I suppose.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:37 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:50 am
Is the x700 able to play mp4 files that contain DD+ ac3 dolby atmos track?
yes, but subtitles don't work in MP4 so , just remux with tsmuxer.
even external subtitles won't work?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:51 pm

even external subtitles won't work?
I don't know... I never tried. I use TS container for everything that is DV.
Please forgive my English.
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FIX the x700 DT-DL TS bug with this file
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:55 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:51 pm

even external subtitles won't work?
I don't know... I never tried. I use TS container for everything that is DV.
Why TS over m2ts?
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glc650 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:56 pm
Why TS over m2ts?
no particular reason. It's just the default tsMuxer output.
Please forgive my English.
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External subtitles works in mp4.
You just have to name the srt file exactly like the mp4 file.

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