Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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sw5163 wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:47 am
With mkv, it can have TrueHD, if ATV can properly handle it.
appleTV should be able to handle "fake p5" mp4 with LPCM.
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:56 am
No, I'm talking about P8.
the C8 (probably the C7/C9 too) cannot play the DV MP4 created by the latest version of the mp4muxer. We had to use the older/first version of the tool.
Wonder how/if the dvh1 flag has affected playback compatibility this entire time
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:59 am
appleTV should be able to handle "fake p5" mp4 with LPCM.
True, so can all the iOS devices. lpcm(7.1), flac(7.1), alac(up to 5.1) works in mp4 container for apple native player.
7.1 loseless on iPhone built in speaker, lol.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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staknhalo wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:01 am
Wonder how/if the dvh1 flag has affected playback compatibility this entire time
Apple being Apple, won't play dvhe or hev1 like the rest of the world. They have extremely poor compatibility internal player.

Conspiracy theory: Apple absolutely has the ability to support other formats. However, people now need to purchase 3rd party APP like infuse to play other formats. Apple can take 20% through the App Store purchase. So they refused to support other formats.(don't take this seriously)
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:40 am
Also, I just noticed that the mp4 created by the latest mp4muxer works on the C2 while it's HDR10 only on the C8(we have to use the old mp4muxer).
Interesting, thanks!
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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sw5163 wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:47 am
ragico wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:44 pm
Both files played entirely in Dolby Vision without hassle.
Well, guess sometimes we need to break some rules.

Did you guys test infuse?
Theoretically, fake P5(HDR10 bl and RPU) in MKV should also play by infuse.
With mkv, it can have TrueHD, if ATV can properly handle it.
Yes, Infuse triggers DV but no Rpu.
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I also tested these 2 files cmv29.mp4 and cmv40 .mp4 on Atv via Plex.
cmv29.mp4 - all works, rpu works (DV)
cmv40.mp4 - L2 does not work. L1, L3 and L8 works and rpu works. (DV)
I don't know what these means, someone could explain these results?
Also Plex triggers Dolby Vision playing Profile 8 ts movies. Is it fake or real DV?
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ragico wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:07 pm
Yes, Infuse triggers DV but no Rpu.
That's strange, it seems Manixx2020beyound played them by infuse and plex.
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:17 pm
sw5163 wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:04 pm
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:39 pm
Stream it from Mac m1 to Apple TV
Stream it form pc to Apple TV works
Sorry to bother, but could you please tell me how did you stream video from pc(windows?) to Apple?
Im currently using file sharing through SMB, but I don't know if there is a better way.
Infuse
Plex
I've just tried the latest infuse on my iPad, no RPU either.
Looks like infuse cannot handle them properly.
No wonder I got banned for posting this on infuse forum.
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"No wonder I got banned for posting this on infuse forum"

Ahhh, this is the real word, unfortunately.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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ragico wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:26 pm

cmv40.mp4 - L2 does not work. L1, L3 and L8 works and rpu works. (DV)
I don't know what these means, someone could explain these results?
thanks for testing...
it means the ATV supports the newest CMV4.0 DV.

can you test this TS P5 file and see if the RPU is processed please:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ze3VfN ... sp=sharing
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ragico wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:26 pm
cmv29.mp4 - all works, rpu works (DV)
cmv40.mp4 - L2 does not work. L1, L3 and L8 works and rpu works. (DV)
I don't know what these means, someone could explain these results?
CM v4.x replaces L2 with L8, so L2 is only used when the device doesn't support L8.
It's expected behaviour.
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sw5163 wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:36 pm
ragico wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:07 pm
Yes, Infuse triggers DV but no Rpu.
That's strange, it seems Manixx2020beyound played them by infuse and plex.
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:17 pm
sw5163 wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:04 pm

Sorry to bother, but could you please tell me how did you stream video from pc(windows?) to Apple?
Im currently using file sharing through SMB, but I don't know if there is a better way.
Infuse
Plex
I've just tried the latest infuse on my iPad, no RPU either.
Looks like infuse cannot handle them properly.
No wonder I got banned for posting this on infuse forum.
That’s strange infuse works both on my end on iPhones iPad & appletv with the trims.
Don’t know if LLDV mode played a part as that is what set too on appletv/vertex2
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:55 pm
ragico wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:26 pm

cmv40.mp4 - L2 does not work. L1, L3 and L8 works and rpu works. (DV)
I don't know what these means, someone could explain these results?
thanks for testing...
it means the ATV supports the newest CMV4.0 DV.

can you test this TS P5 file and see if the RPU is processed please:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ze3VfN ... sp=sharing


This file cannot be played trough Atv native player as it supports only .mp4 files.
Cannot be played in Plex as Plex does not support ts p5
Infuse plays as hdr so ...............
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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quietvoid wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:59 pm
ragico wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:26 pm
cmv29.mp4 - all works, rpu works (DV)
cmv40.mp4 - L2 does not work. L1, L3 and L8 works and rpu works. (DV)
I don't know what these means, someone could explain these results?
CM v4.x replaces L2 with L8, so L2 is only used when the device doesn't support L8.
It's expected behaviour.
Thanks for the explanation.
Please can you share your latest kodi build for Firestick?
Many thanks.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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ragico wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:26 pm
cmv40.mp4 - L2 does not work. L1, L3 and L8 works and rpu works. (DV)
I don't know what these means, someone could explain these results?
Some official document: https://professionalsupport.dolby.com/s ... uage=en_US
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