Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[DaMacFunkin]

Black Widow UHD + P5 = the same exact source/fames/time stamps = all match exactly

Happy P8 making

Hi, is there a guide for this please?
I can’t get the switches correct with DoVi tool.
I converted HDR+ to DV no problem, now I want to do a UHD (P8) of Black Widow with P5 rpu.

Thanks for any help.

[staknhalo]

Black Widow UHD + P5 = the same exact source/fames/time stamps = all match exactly

Happy P8 making

Hi, is there a guide for this please?
I can’t get the switches correct with DoVi tool.
I converted HDR+ to DV no problem, now I want to do a UHD (P8) of Black Widow with P5 rpu.

Thanks for any help.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/author ... 1.3212211/

I logged the steps for p5 to p8 in there

[jayper]

I don't think the ISOs created are larger than the MKVs.

Yes, for starters ISO and M2TS need the ac3 core for TrueHD tracks and with the container overhead it can make them as much as 10% bigger.

Sorry, I should have added more detail. I have both an Nvidia Shield and an x700. I usually do a full disc back-up of my UHDs, from those backups I will create an MKV of the main movie for storage on my server for HDR10 playback on the Shield.

I am one of those people that can really notice the "red push" on the Shield, so I have been hanging onto my full disc back-ups of DoVi discs so that I can create Blu-Ray folders or TS files to playback in Dolby Vision on my x700. Ideally, I could get rid of the full disc back-ups and only save the MKVs. That way I don't have the MKV and full back-up, effectively doubling my stored data. I just wanted to understand the most reliable way to extract all the necessary data from the MKV before tossing my back-ups. I prefer to not re-rip my discs if I can avoid it.

I just had never heard of the tooling in this thread (https://forum.redfox.bz/threads/guide-t ... -dv.82545/) and wanted to know if this was the standard way folks are going about it these days. Thanks!

[MOHAX777]

Atmos sound and dolby Vision (Mel and fel) is working now on my ugoos AM6 plus box in kodi.

you are not telling us the whole truth . Out of about 20 DV-FEL (mkv 7.06), I can watch 2-3 movies without critical problems, the others have frequent problems with picture scattering and freezing. Not to mention problems with rewinding or resuming after stop.
(am6+ 0.42 firmware, lasts kodinerds kodi build)

Which are the few movies you have less issues with?

list of less problem movies:
10 Cloverfield Lane DV-FEL
Donnie Darko DV-MEL
Midsommar DC DV-FEL

[mkvcount]

Anyone know the best and fastest way to count the frame difference on a mac to match/sync the RPU? Haven't found a good way yet...

[mkvcount]

Hope someone can answer this: I have a 23.976fps web-dl with HDR10+ and the same movie in 24fps 4K remux. Is it possible to convert the HDR10+ to DV and inject it to the remux even if the frame rates are different?

[DaMacFunkin]

Black Widow UHD + P5 = the same exact source/fames/time stamps = all match exactly

Happy P8 making

Hi, is there a guide for this please?
I can’t get the switches correct with DoVi tool.
I converted HDR+ to DV no problem, now I want to do a UHD (P8) of Black Widow with P5 rpu.

Thanks for any help.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/author ... 1.3212211/

I logged the steps for p5 to p8 in there

Thanks I had already worked it out from that page
it was the output switches I was by getting right - Black Widow works very well.
If you have a movie where your RPU is offset is there a simple guide to fix this or is is it not worth bothering with?

Ps hoping for a P5 Shang Chi

[staknhalo]

If anyone here in this thread has the French Dolby Vision FEL UHD release of The Incredible Hulk (2008) - if you could give me a mediainfo info 'printout' of the main title (without BL+EL merged but the info for both layers) please and thank you (I know sources would be the same, wondering if its BL is really same as US UHD though not just same source)

[daddy]

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Format                                   : MPEG-4
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Identifiant du codec                     : mp42 (mp42/dby1/isom)
Taille du fichier                        : 44,7 Gio
Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
Débit global moyen                       : 57,0 Mb/s
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00

Vidéo #1
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Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.253
Taille du flux                           : 39,5 Gio (88%)
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 657 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Vidéo #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : dvhe
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
Débit                                    : 5 678 kb/s
Largeur                                  : 1 920 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 1 080 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.114
Taille du flux                           : 4,45 Gio (10%)
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Nom commercial                           : Dolby Digital Plus
Identifiant du codec                     : ec-3
Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
Type de débit                            : Constant
Débit                                    : 960 kb/s
Canaux                                   : 6 canaux
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Echantillonnage                          : 48,0 kHz
Images par seconde                       : 31,250 Im/s (1536 SPF)
Mode de compression                      : Avec perte
Taille du flux                           : 771 Mio (2%)
Langue                                   : Français
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00

[quietvoid]

So both Firestick 4K 2018 & Max look the same with the Spears & Munsil eagle beak shot.
I tried both original profile 7 and converted to 8.1.

It's not as yellow as with the LG C8 internal player.

L2 metadata isn't being ignored, so this might actually be the player-led issue.
Has anyone reproduced it with another device?

[ArArdin]

Sorry if this is discussed before. I assume yusesope's tool version (FEL to MEL + UHD-BD to 8.1 + SKIP HDR10+ + Experimental Muxer) is the proper one for adding the "-skip_hdr10plus" switch in the DEMUX.bat, but I can't get this to work.
Commandwindow says "Wait..." and nothing happens for ages. Without the added switch demuxing works fine. Anybody maybe knows why it isn't working?
Much obliged.

[staknhalo]

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Général
Nom complet                              : Z:\Marvel et DC Comics\L'Incroyable Hulk [e-ac3][4k][DV]\L'Incroyable Hulk [e-ac3][4k][DV].mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Profil du format                         : Base Media / Version 2
Identifiant du codec                     : mp42 (mp42/dby1/isom)
Taille du fichier                        : 44,7 Gio
Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
Débit global moyen                       : 57,0 Mb/s
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00

Vidéo #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : hev1
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding
Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
Débit                                    : 50,4 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.253
Taille du flux                           : 39,5 Gio (88%)
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 657 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Vidéo #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : dvhe
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
Débit                                    : 5 678 kb/s
Largeur                                  : 1 920 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 1 080 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.114
Taille du flux                           : 4,45 Gio (10%)
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
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Mode de compression                      : Avec perte
Taille du flux                           : 771 Mio (2%)
Langue                                   : Français
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00

Thank you very much

[mulucy]

So both Firestick 4K 2018 & Max look the same with the Spears & Munsil eagle beak shot.
I tried both original profile 7 and converted to 8.1.

It's not as yellow as with the LG C8 internal player.

L2 metadata isn't being ignored, so this might actually be the player-led issue.
Has anyone reproduced it with another device?

Not really able to answer your question, but I also own both versions, 2018 and 2021 models of Fire TV 4k Stick. Sorry if I am being redundant with my question. But can we safely say Fire TV 4k Max 2021 model does not play FEL DV, but ignores the El and acts like Nvidia Shield? If this is the case, how accurate the colors are with "MEL" at that point if it's ignoring the EL? Are there any test files to test it out properly @quietvoid? Any way I can help you with the test?

[chros]

So both Firestick 4K 2018 & Max look the same with the Spears & Munsil eagle beak shot.
I tried both original profile 7 and converted to 8.1.

It's not as yellow as with the LG C8 internal player.

L2 metadata isn't being ignored, so this might actually be the player-led issue.
Has anyone reproduced it with another device?

I don't think they use player-led (I was the one who suspected it): with our 2018 LG Oleds it's easy to notice, it produces the same banding/posterization as with HDR10 in PC mode (probably triggering the same low latency mode, where certain basic image processing is disabled).
So Oppo's player-led output is different from Firestick4k's output, there's no such issue with Firestick4k.

So, not sure why it's different, but we saw this with the black level test as well, that's why I stopped using Firestick4k, and use the Plex app on the TV instead.
If you upload samples and tell me exactly when/what to look for I can take a look.

[quietvoid]

Not really able to answer your question, but I also own both versions, 2018 and 2021 models of Fire TV 4k Stick. Sorry if I am being redundant with my question. But can we safely say Fire TV 4k Max 2021 model does not play FEL DV, but ignores the El and acts like Nvidia Shield? If this is the case, how accurate the colors are with "MEL" at that point if it's ignoring the EL? Are there any test files to test it out properly @quietvoid? Any way I can help you with the test?

I don't have a profile 7 FEL that looks different to check it out.
I'm pretty sure it ignores the EL, though.

So far regardless of profile 7 or (converted) profile 8, there's a difference in quality for the sample below.

I don't think they use player-led (I was the one who suspected it): with our 2018 LG Oleds it's easy to notice, it produces the same banding/posterization as with HDR10 in PC mode (probably triggering the same low latency mode, where certain basic image processing is disabled).
So Oppo's player-led output is different from Firestick4k's output, there's no such issue with Firestick4k.

So, not sure why it's different, but we saw this with the black level test as well, that's why I stopped using Firestick4k, and use the Plex app on the TV instead.
If you upload samples and tell me exactly when/what to look for I can take a look.

You can try this sample: https://mega.nz/file/cY1gEZzQ#eJIRMpZ2X ... PaGtY_35gU
The eagle's beak looks noticeably better in the internal player compared to the Firestick for me.

Next step is probably to try figuring out what's happening and if it can be prevented.