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Mr_Orange
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by Mr_Orange » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:41 am
When I insert the 4K disc, MakeMKV sees 4 titles with 16 chapters, as follows:
- 46.0 GB (angle 1) - 00245.mlps - 1,336
- 45.9 GB (angle 2) - 00245.mlps - 1,337
- 46.0 GB (angle 1) - 00246.mlps - 1,336
- 45.9 GB (angle 2) - 00246.mlps - 1,337
The run times are all the same at 1:34:42.
Any ideas which one I should rip please?
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jayper
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by jayper » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:15 am
My workflow is as follows and it has been super helpful to determine the correct playlist in situations like this:
- Do a full decrypted folder back-up of the disc
- Open the folder back-up in MakeMKV
- Find the two or three largest titles
- Review the "Title Information" in the right-hand panel for all of the titles
- Compare the "Segment Map" numbers and look for differences between the titles (Example: One title shows 55,60,61 and the other shows 55,59,61)
- In your OS file explorer, open the folder which contains your full disc back-up
- Navigate to the "BDMV" folder, and then to the "Stream" folder
- Open the two differing .m2ts files (59 & 60 from the example above) and review them in VLC or another video player
- This will show you exactly what is different between the two playlists.
- Then use MakeMKV to process your backed-up folder and create you MKV by selecting the title that has the language you prefer.
- Also, if the segment maps are identical, check which available languages and subtitles are on each playlist. Discs are often authored with subsets of languages isolated to one playlist.
Hope that helps.
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Mr_Orange
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by Mr_Orange » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:15 am
Thanks.
The issue is that there are 4 titles that are almost identical in size with similar files and segment maps, as per my OP.
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jayper
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by jayper » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:17 pm
I didn't see the segment maps listed in your OP. Understood.
Have you played back 336 and 337? There's likely something different.
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Mr_Orange
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by Mr_Orange » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:14 am
jayper wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:17 pm
Have you played back 336 and 337? There's likely something different.
OK, so I started a decrypted disc backup and then played back 336 and 337. They are just end credits. I have no idea what the difference is since the running times are identical.
I am now ripping the marginally larger Angle 1 playlist which Make MKV actually preselects.
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Woodstock
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by Woodstock » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:37 am
Since this is not a Lionsgate release, it is more likely that the different angles are a variation on the Disney formula of changing out title and credit segments for different languages.
If I had the space (I usually do) and time, I'd tell MakeMKV to rip all 4, see what languages each has (audio/subtitle), then look at the opening titles on each. Throw away the MKV files that do not match your requirements.
Wild guess would be 00245.mlps Angle 1 = English.
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Mr_Orange
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by Mr_Orange » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:42 am
Woodstock wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:37 am
Since this is not a Lionsgate release, it is more likely that the different angles are a variation on the Disney formula of changing out title and credit segments for different languages.
If I had the space (I usually do) and time, I'd tell MakeMKV to rip all 4, see what languages each has (audio/subtitle), then look at the opening titles on each. Throw away the MKV files that do not match your requirements.
Thanks. Always good to learn about these tricks. I was planning to rip all 4 after completing the backup but when I discovered that segments 336 and 337 were both end credits, I just went with 00245.mlps.
Woodstock wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:37 am
Wild guess would be 00245.mlps Angle 1 = English.
You'd be correct. That is the one I ripped.