In my short time using MakeMKV (mow an official license holder), I have run across a bunch of (mostly UHD) discs that have over 100 versions of the movie in the list.
I read that in most cases one can just select the first one and it will be fine. I did that, "t00". So, I loaded up Midway 2019 4K UHD (the 2020 release), and the movie comes up somewhere other than the beginning... just in the middle of the action somewhere. So, I tried the second one, "t01"... Opens somewhere else.
The movie lists 16 chapters and has 178 iterations of the movie ("t00" thru "t177"). I tried "t16", "t17", and "t177"... not the beginning. Not enough time to try them all. I have others like this.
I can watch the disc without issue, but my goal is to get them onto the NAS. Anyone have an idea what I am up against? Maybe, I need to change a setting in MakeMKV? Something is up with the way the discs like this are created?
I do have a lot of movies uploaded onto the NAS, thanks to MakeMKV, and I am happy for that. I've got some that just won't read correctly and some not at all. Then, there are these ones that show multiple iterations of the same movie, and most of them are 4K UHD.
Thank you in advance for your helpful replies!
177 Versions On One Disc!?
Re: 177 Versions On One Disc!?
Sounds like Lionsgate disks, with dozens to hundreds of false entries to throw you off.
Generally speaking, MakeMKV can find the correct copy and put it first in the list; sometimes, though, you have to sort thru them and ignore any copy that doesn't match the runtime stated.
Generally speaking, MakeMKV can find the correct copy and put it first in the list; sometimes, though, you have to sort thru them and ignore any copy that doesn't match the runtime stated.
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Re: 177 Versions On One Disc!?
Midway 2019 4K (new BD-J protection?)
"Fake playlist" protection - help needed
The short version is some discs are authored with a bunch of incorrect versions of the movie on the disc. The sole purpose of this is to make ripping the disc harder. Generally speaking, if you search on the movie title here on the forums, you'll find a thread where folks have figured out which playlist is the right one.
As a side note, the _t## part that MakeMKV appends to the file name is not guaranteed to be distinct between various users of MakeMKV. In other words, with the same disc, what your MakeMKV says is *_t17, for example, might be different than what my MakeMKV says is *_t17.
The correct thing to do is to refer to the #####.mpls or the segment map of a title. In MakeMKV, highlight the title on the left and then find the relevant parts in the info box on the right. These items are from the disc itself and not something MakeMKV generates on the fly.
"Fake playlist" protection - help needed
The short version is some discs are authored with a bunch of incorrect versions of the movie on the disc. The sole purpose of this is to make ripping the disc harder. Generally speaking, if you search on the movie title here on the forums, you'll find a thread where folks have figured out which playlist is the right one.
As a side note, the _t## part that MakeMKV appends to the file name is not guaranteed to be distinct between various users of MakeMKV. In other words, with the same disc, what your MakeMKV says is *_t17, for example, might be different than what my MakeMKV says is *_t17.
The correct thing to do is to refer to the #####.mpls or the segment map of a title. In MakeMKV, highlight the title on the left and then find the relevant parts in the info box on the right. These items are from the disc itself and not something MakeMKV generates on the fly.
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Re{ Learning Curve Time }: 177 Versions On One Disc!?
Thank you for the replies, Woodstock & dcoke22! It has been a learning curve I didn't expect with this venture. I'm retired and still in need of schooling 
I looked at the provided links. What I did find is that the disc I purchased with this issue is Lionsgate, and one of quite a few. I did come to realized that the "txx" numbers I see are not lining up with what people are posting... as one of you pointed out. I will need to do a search. for the segment order to find which one of the 178 titles I see is the one to pull. I did see a comment about using MakeMKV to do a text dump of what it sees and then doing a search for the string people are posting as correct. Another one stated that Java JRE was required without mentioning if 'i586' or 'x64' was the proper one. I will try installing both and see what happens. Another post commented that VLC would play UHD discs, but one may need to set it to use Direct-X.
Anyway... a handful of things to go thru and unpack! Maybe, I'll be able to learn enough to help someone else in the near future. One can hope!
Thank you, both.
[UPDATE]
. I got Midway 4K UHD downloaded in the correct order, finally. What I did was to download and install Java JRE. I installed both the 'i586' and 'x64' versions, but presume MakeMKV is only utilizing the 32-bit 'i586' install.
. Once I installed Java JRE and restarted the Windows 11 computer, the 't00' file MakeMKV read had "(FPL_MainFeature) appended tot he title name. I compared the segment play order I got to the ones reported, and had "504,502,501,503,500,506,507,505"... one of the ones people reported as "correct" for them. That was the one that worked for me.
. I checked a Lionsgate 2K Blu-ray I had previously downloaded to MKV, and it played correctly. Now, I wish I had marked the ones that had multiple playlists on the disc when I started. I'll just have to go through them and address them as I find them.
... FYI ...
I looked at the provided links. What I did find is that the disc I purchased with this issue is Lionsgate, and one of quite a few. I did come to realized that the "txx" numbers I see are not lining up with what people are posting... as one of you pointed out. I will need to do a search. for the segment order to find which one of the 178 titles I see is the one to pull. I did see a comment about using MakeMKV to do a text dump of what it sees and then doing a search for the string people are posting as correct. Another one stated that Java JRE was required without mentioning if 'i586' or 'x64' was the proper one. I will try installing both and see what happens. Another post commented that VLC would play UHD discs, but one may need to set it to use Direct-X.
Anyway... a handful of things to go thru and unpack! Maybe, I'll be able to learn enough to help someone else in the near future. One can hope!
Thank you, both.
[UPDATE]
. I got Midway 4K UHD downloaded in the correct order, finally. What I did was to download and install Java JRE. I installed both the 'i586' and 'x64' versions, but presume MakeMKV is only utilizing the 32-bit 'i586' install.
. Once I installed Java JRE and restarted the Windows 11 computer, the 't00' file MakeMKV read had "(FPL_MainFeature) appended tot he title name. I compared the segment play order I got to the ones reported, and had "504,502,501,503,500,506,507,505"... one of the ones people reported as "correct" for them. That was the one that worked for me.
. I checked a Lionsgate 2K Blu-ray I had previously downloaded to MKV, and it played correctly. Now, I wish I had marked the ones that had multiple playlists on the disc when I started. I'll just have to go through them and address them as I find them.
... FYI ...