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RESET_9999
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by RESET_9999 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:47 pm
deadchip12 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:56 am
With which movies are you seeing grey letterbox bars? The letterbox bars are properly black on the c9 internal player but grey on the x700?
This has been discussed many times in this thread.... DV content that is cropped (no black bars) will have grey black bars on the x700 / oppo and probably all the bluray players.
There's nothing we can do about it but since cropped content usually comes without lossless audio, I just use my C8 internal plex app with ARC to send the audio to my AVR.
daddy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:00 pm
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Général
Nom complet : Y:\4k\Shang Chi et la Légende des Dix Anneaux [e-ac3][4k][DV].mp4
you do what you want but muxing an IMAX DV with a non-IMAX video is a bad idea because the IMAX L1/L2 metadata contains values from DV analysis that includes pixels of the IMAX area and this is something a L5 edit cannot fix.
see:
https://slow.pics/c/5kVYmtO7
imax L1 metadata from Dolby analysis:
Bluray Remux L1 metadata from Dolby analysis:
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deadchip12
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by deadchip12 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:55 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:47 pm
deadchip12 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:56 am
With which movies are you seeing grey letterbox bars? The letterbox bars are properly black on the c9 internal player but grey on the x700?
This has been discussed many times in this thread.... DV content that is cropped (no black bars) will have grey black bars on the x700 / oppo and probably all the bluray players.
There's nothing we can do about it but since cropped content usually comes without lossless audio, I just use my C8 internal plex player with ARC to send the audio to my AVR.
Are there a lot of those cropped dolby vision films? Are those films mostly from streaming services instead of theater/bluray discs?
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RESET_9999
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by RESET_9999 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:57 pm
deadchip12 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:55 pm
Are there a lot of those cropped dolby vision films? Are those films mostly from streaming services instead of theater/bluray discs?
yeah, movies and tv shows from streaming services. AppleTV+ and Amazon Prime crop all their content.
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SteamyUncle
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by SteamyUncle » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:11 pm
OK. Thanks a lot !
Any way to recode with added black bars maybe ? Pretty simple in general... Do you have any pointers to do it in this DV context?
Because, I am in fact in the same boat regarding these movies...normally all gravy with C9 internal player - I find the DV presentation slightly better on it than on the M9702 in fact - with eARC to HW-Q950T..except, of course, for this effing "file not recognized" issue after one launch.
Are you encountering this issue on the C8 as well with DV/DD+Atmos mp4's ?
RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:47 pm
deadchip12 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:56 am
With which movies are you seeing grey letterbox bars? The letterbox bars are properly black on the c9 internal player but grey on the x700?
This has been discussed many times in this thread.... DV content that is cropped (no black bars) will have grey black bars on the x700 / oppo and probably all the bluray players.
There's nothing we can do about it but since cropped content usually comes without lossless audio, I just use my C8 internal plex app with ARC to send the audio to my AVR.
daddy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:00 pm
Code: Select all
Général
Nom complet : Y:\4k\Shang Chi et la Légende des Dix Anneaux [e-ac3][4k][DV].mp4
you do what you want but muxing an IMAX DV with a non-IMAX video is a bad idea because the IMAX L1/L2 metadata contains values from DV analysis that includes IMAX area and this is something an L5 edit cannot fix.
see:
https://slow.pics/c/5kVYmtO7
imax L1 metadata from Dolby analysis:
Bluray Remux L1 metadata from Dolby analysis:
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RESET_9999
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by RESET_9999 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:53 pm
SteamyUncle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:11 pm
OK. Thanks a lot !
Any way to recode with added black bars maybe ? Pretty simple in general... Do you have any pointers to do it in this DV context?
Because, I am in fact in the same boat regarding these movies...normally all gravy with C9 internal player - I find the DV presentation slightly better on it than on the M9702 in fact - with eARC to HW-Q950T..except, of course, for this effing "file not recognized" issue after one launch.
Are you encountering this issue on the C8 as well with DV/DD+Atmos mp4's ?
Well, I'm not sure if it can be done with profile 5 content but with HDR10 base layer DV (P8) content , yes you can add the black bars with staxrip with some basic script I'm sure you can find somewhere on doom9. still re-encoding though.
I don't have any issue on the C8/plex with DD+ atmos via ARC. But I've been watching mostly TS files and not mp4. I know mp4 is very unstable on the Shield/plex.
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Svetlyi
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by Svetlyi » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:39 pm
Hi people. I am new to this business. Tell me, is there an instruction on how to add a few additional tracks and subtitles to profile 5 web-dl in mp4 or mkv format to get web-dl to mp4? I'll be very grateful
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RESET_9999
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by RESET_9999 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:06 am
Svetlyi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:39 pm
Hi people. I am new to this business. Tell me, is there an instruction on how to add a few additional tracks and subtitles to profile 5 web-dl in mp4 or mkv format to get web-dl to mp4? I'll be very grateful
maybe there are better ways nowadays but I used to use mp4box
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mp4box.exe -add X:\P5.DV.mp4#1 -add X:\P5.DV.mp4#2 -add X:\audio.mp4#audio:lang=fr-FR -add X:\subtitles.srt#subtitle:lang=fr-FR
#1 being the video and #2 the original audio if you want to keep it.
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Mattl0
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by Mattl0 » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:45 am
RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:53 pm
SteamyUncle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:11 pm
OK. Thanks a lot !
Any way to recode with added black bars maybe ? Pretty simple in general... Do you have any pointers to do it in this DV context?
Because, I am in fact in the same boat regarding these movies...normally all gravy with C9 internal player - I find the DV presentation slightly better on it than on the M9702 in fact - with eARC to HW-Q950T..except, of course, for this effing "file not recognized" issue after one launch.
Are you encountering this issue on the C8 as well with DV/DD+Atmos mp4's ?
Well, I'm not sure if it can be done with profile 5 content but with HDR10 base layer DV (P8) content , yes you can add the black bars with staxrip with some basic script I'm sure you can find somewhere on doom9. still re-encoding though.
I don't have any issue on the C8/plex with DD+ atmos via ARC. But I've been watching mostly TS files and not mp4. I know mp4 is very unstable on the Shield/plex.
Do you think it is better with ts on the x800m2?
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RESET_9999
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by RESET_9999 » Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:07 pm
Mattl0 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:45 am
Do you think it is better with ts on the x800m2?
TS playback is much better than MP4 on the x700, so yes I assume it's the same with the x800m2
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Mattl0
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by Mattl0 » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:14 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:07 pm
Mattl0 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:45 am
Do you think it is better with ts on the x800m2?
TS playback is much better than MP4 on the x700, so yes I assume it's the same with the x800m2
Thanks!I was remuxing all dovi in mp4. It will be much faster directly in ts.
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chros
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by chros » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:39 am
Yes, it looks slightly different via stick4k, but that's what I saw with other contents as well, not sure why.
Was this the 10.000 nits version or the 1000/4000 one?
On a different note, Stacey
here mentioned again, that there is a setting (I guess in the RPU) with which the DoVi tonemapping can be turned off, do you know which one?
Here is a calibration
pattern sample, that should be like it.
This way I guess we can create calibration samples from hdr10 ones.
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quietvoid
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by quietvoid » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:30 pm
chros wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:39 am
Yes, it looks slightly different via stick4k, but that's what I saw with other contents as well, not sure why.
Was this the 10.000 nits version or the 1000/4000 one?
On a different note, Stacey
here mentioned again, that there is a setting (I guess in the RPU) with which the DoVi tonemapping can be turned off, do you know which one?
Here is a calibration
pattern sample, that should be like it.
This way I guess we can create calibration samples from hdr10 ones.
That was the 10 000 nits version.
I'm not sure what flags would actually disable tonemapping.
IIRC an empty profile 8 RPU like those created by 'generate' are tonemapping every detail, but usually with a dimmer APL.
We'll probably have to wait for the new disc, unless someone tries to ask Stacey how it works.
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Buzzie
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by Buzzie » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:59 pm
Anybody that can help me?
I am trying to accomplish the following :
What i would like to achieve with Dovi tool or any other is to download a WEB-DL from any source, take out the DV metadata and add it to the UHD remux so that those versions have DV too.
What i did so far are the following steps:
c:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\ffmpeg\bin\ffmpeg.exe -i "c:\temp\DV_WEB-DL.mkv" -c:v copy -vbsf hevc_mp4toannexb -f hevc c:\temp\DV.hevc
extracted the video from the UHD and named it HDR10.hevc
c:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\dovi_tool.exe -m 3 extract-rpu c:\temp\DV.hevc
made a edited.json file for the RPU
c:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\dovi_tool.exe editor -i c:\temp\RPU.bin -j c:\temp\edited.json --rpu-out c:\temp\RPU-edited.bin
c:\Dolby-Vision-Tools\dovi_tool.exe inject-rpu -i c:\temp\HDR10.hevc --rpu-in c:\temp\RPU-edited.bin
Lastly copied the HDR10.hevc file to the extracted contents of the UHD and used mkvtoolnix to make a new MKV
This one did not have the DV info.
What am i doing wrong?
Thanks again !
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chros
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by chros » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:24 pm
quietvoid wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:30 pm
chros wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:39 am
Yes, it looks slightly different via stick4k, but that's what I saw with other contents as well, not sure why.
Was this the 10.000 nits version or the 1000/4000 one?
On a different note, Stacey
here mentioned again, that there is a setting (I guess in the RPU) with which the DoVi tonemapping can be turned off, do you know which one?
Here is a calibration
pattern sample, that should be like it.
This way I guess we can create calibration samples from hdr10 ones.
That was the 10 000 nits version.
I'm not sure what flags would actually disable tonemapping.
IIRC an empty profile 8 RPU like those created by 'generate' are tonemapping every detail, but usually with a dimmer APL.
We'll probably have to wait for the new disc, unless someone tries to ask Stacey how it works.
Thanks, so you didn't see anything related in the attached sample?
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quietvoid
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by quietvoid » Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:44 pm
chros wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:24 pm
Thanks, so you didn't see anything related in the attached sample?
Am I supposed to check every RPU frame?
There's nothing indicating a change in the video itself. It's just a static patch.
The metadata suggests the same thing.