Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:07 am
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GoT episodes are in FEL.KoshIreland wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:34 amHi. Sorry to ask something already covered in this thread, but I haven't been able to figure out the latest/best info.
Back in Dec 2020, I started using scripts from this thread to convert Dolby Vision UHD discs (Game of Thrones) to DV MP4, but I never finished the process.
What's the best option currently to convert these discs to a DV file that will play on AppleTV with LG C8 — or using LG C8 built-in player?
Thank you!daddy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:59 amGoT episodes are in FEL.
On C7, C8, C9, the best option is to make DV dual layers mp4 files (dvhe.07.06) and to play them directly with the LG built-in player.
For each episode, extract BL, EL and audio files with tsmuxer, then mux the mp4 file with mp4muxer.
The result is almost 1.8 TB for 98 files (mp4 + srt files)
Are you sure these tvs can play FEL correctly? Some people on reddit say if you watch FEL title with internal player, it is downgrading to MEL.daddy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:59 amGoT episodes are in FEL.KoshIreland wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:34 amHi. Sorry to ask something already covered in this thread, but I haven't been able to figure out the latest/best info.
Back in Dec 2020, I started using scripts from this thread to convert Dolby Vision UHD discs (Game of Thrones) to DV MP4, but I never finished the process.
What's the best option currently to convert these discs to a DV file that will play on AppleTV with LG C8 — or using LG C8 built-in player?
On C7, C8, C9, the best option is to make DV dual layers mp4 files (dvhe.07.06) and to play them directly with the LG built-in player.
For each episode, extract BL, EL and audio files with tsmuxer, then mux the mp4 file with mp4muxer.
The result is almost 1.8 TB for 98 files (mp4 + srt files)
Forgot I even wrote here, but you are incorrect. It won't be the same, even if the color mapping is done correctly, the profile settings of the TV are completely different from an SDR profile. Also, from it's not "supposed" to stretch the colors to how it actually works, it's a long way. Even if does work as you think it "should" work, you still have maxed out brightness settings and all, as the TV is running under a DV settings profile. So yeah, it's still crap and sad to not be able to make the player recognize DV content automatically like all other players from other companies do. But then again, it took Sony years to get DV sorted out for their TVs.HarperVision wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:37 amThis is incorrect if the display maps the colors and dynamic range as it should. If it doesn’t that’s on the display you’re using, not the player.
Colors within any of the color gamuts will be completely identical whether they be Rec709, DCI-P3 or BT2020, up to each of their limits of course. So putting a Rec709 source into a wider P3 or BT2020 container should look and display identically when the gamuts are mapped properly since Rec709 is smaller than either of those wider gamuts. It’s not supposed to stretch the colors at all and if it does then your display is doing it wrong, not the source.
I have both an X700 and an X800M2 as well as an AppleTV 4K and they don’t have any of the issues reported with my displays because they map the signal correctly.
Proof that they are wrong: You can clearly see the 2 différents layers on my C7.cannibalist2 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:29 pmAre you sure these tvs can play FEL correctly? Some people on reddit say if you watch FEL title with internal player, it is downgrading to MEL.
How do you send video to the native player exactly?
Thank you!fox0910 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:13 pmYes. All work well.
You can see:
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/offici ... k.2951726/
That's exactly how I feel, tbh. I won't update it for now. Mine is not connected to internet and it has been rock-solid with most remux and DV files.galarond wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:37 amI have the x700 too, didnt update but i read some internet issues plus i dont see any benefit so why the risk to lose/block something? I wouldbt update if i was you.mulucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:41 pmThank you!fox0910 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:13 pm
Yes. All work well.
You can see:
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/offici ... k.2951726/
I am not incorrect.azreil24 wrote:Forgot I even wrote here, but you are incorrect. It won't be the same, even if the color mapping is done correctly, the profile settings of the TV are completely different from an SDR profile. Also, from it's not "supposed" to stretch the colors to how it actually works, it's a long way. Even if does work as you think it "should" work, you still have maxed out brightness settings and all, as the TV is running under a DV settings profile. So yeah, it's still crap and sad to not be able to make the player recognize DV content automatically like all other players from other companies do. But then again, it took Sony years to get DV sorted out for their TVs.HarperVision wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:37 amThis is incorrect if the display maps the colors and dynamic range as it should. If it doesn’t that’s on the display you’re using, not the player.
Colors within any of the color gamuts will be completely identical whether they be Rec709, DCI-P3 or BT2020, up to each of their limits of course. So putting a Rec709 source into a wider P3 or BT2020 container should look and display identically when the gamuts are mapped properly since Rec709 is smaller than either of those wider gamuts. It’s not supposed to stretch the colors at all and if it does then your display is doing it wrong, not the source.
I have both an X700 and an X800M2 as well as an AppleTV 4K and they don’t have any of the issues reported with my displays because they map the signal correctly.