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Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:07 pm
by SamuriHL
bobbymkV wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:51 pm
SamuriHL wrote:I agree with that. I find it very unlikely OPPO responds at all.
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Oh they still have customer support for inquiries and warranty, but the engineers are long gone. So he would get an answer, just not the one he is hoping for.
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Well, ok, I guess a response but even that's not guaranteed. They're likely only interested in spending money on supporting existing functionality they are obligated to support. They are a business, after all, and there's zero money to be made on this.
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:02 pm
by Fuluer
Will the next version of Makemkv support muxing an MKV with 2 video streams (made with mkvtoolnix from an old Makemkv backup) into a DV-compliant MKV?
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:25 am
by lexyz
Zidoo Z9X recieved firmware update
v6.0.22_G
among other things there is this
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24. Add initial support for Dolby vision MKVs (experimental function, support Profile5, 8 MEL)
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Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:53 am
by m00se
quietvoid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:40 am
I've tried the P4 sample and it fails on Fire TV Stick 4K, so I assume it is FEL.
Please be kind as I am brand new here. I keep seeing this abbreviation: FEL and I can't for the life of me figure out what it means. I'm a bit overwhelmed with terms here!
Thanks for understanding
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:07 am
by mike admin
Fuluer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:02 pm
Will the next version of Makemkv support muxing an MKV with 2 video streams (made with mkvtoolnix from an old Makemkv backup) into a DV-compliant MKV?
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18602&p=94209#p94209
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:47 am
by quietvoid
m00se wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:53 am
quietvoid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:40 am
I've tried the P4 sample and it fails on Fire TV Stick 4K, so I assume it is FEL.
Please be kind as I am brand new here. I keep seeing this abbreviation: FEL and I can't for the life of me figure out what it means. I'm a bit overwhelmed with terms here!
Thanks for understanding
It means Full Enhancement Layer.
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:47 am
by DaMacFunkin
lexyz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:25 am
Zidoo Z9X recieved firmware update
v6.0.22_G
among other things there is this
Code: Select all
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24. Add initial support for Dolby vision MKVs (experimental function, support Profile5, 8 MEL)
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I’m not sure we we can choose to makemkv from profile 7 to 8 can we?
Also the million dollar question is what happens with the FEL in these cases?
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:10 am
by shawnc22
There's really no such thing as a profile 8 MEL, since the EL doesn't exist in profile 8. The support is likely just for the single layer profile 5 and 8 test mkvs that Mike created. There are no methods available currently to create any profile 5 or 8 mkvs. If this is the extent of the zidoo's dv playback capability, then it doesn't bode well for playing back uhd disc rips.
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:31 am
by mulucy
shawnc22 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:10 am
There's really no such thing as a profile 8 MEL, since the EL doesn't exist in profile 8. The support is likely just for the single layer profile 5 and 8 test mkvs that Mike created. There are no methods available currently to create any profile 5 or 8 mkvs. If this is the extent of the zidoo's dv playback capability, then it doesn't bode well for playing back uhd disc rips.
I always wondered the same about Profile 5 and 8. AFAIK, there is no method to truly convert UHD disk profile 7 to Profile 5/8 with correct color space ( at least nothing available to public from Dolby Labs). I know with profile 5, it's always undefined color space. Profile 5 I have created with tools here and DVDfab is more like HDR10+, better than nothing and better contrast and punchy colors than HDR10.
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:29 pm
by DaMacFunkin
... which is sort of what I think the Dolby Vision VS10 engine Zidoo is blowing about, basically just active HDR..
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:20 pm
by Meister_Proper
shawnc22 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:10 am
There's really no such thing as a profile 8 MEL, since the EL doesn't exist in profile 8. The support is likely just for the single layer profile 5 and 8 test mkvs that Mike created. There are no methods available currently to create any profile 5 or 8 mkvs. If this is the extent of the zidoo's dv playback capability, then it doesn't bode well for playing back uhd disc rips.
Its probably just a typo. Profile 7 with MEL works just fine on the Zidoo, though.
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:58 pm
by Fuluer
When I tried to PM you...
"We are sorry, but you are not authorised to use this feature. You may have just registered here and may need to participate more in discussions to be able to use this feature. "
Hopefully this post will get me over the hump
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Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:09 pm
by mulucy
Meister_Proper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:20 pm
shawnc22 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:10 am
There's really no such thing as a profile 8 MEL, since the EL doesn't exist in profile 8. The support is likely just for the single layer profile 5 and 8 test mkvs that Mike created. There are no methods available currently to create any profile 5 or 8 mkvs. If this is the extent of the zidoo's dv playback capability, then it doesn't bode well for playing back uhd disc rips.
Its probably just a typo. Profile 7 with MEL works just fine on the Zidoo, though.
I think you are very active in Zidoo forums ( I have seen your username there ), do you actually own the unit? What are your thoughts about it in terms of DV support?
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:39 am
by Meister_Proper
mulucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:09 pm
Meister_Proper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:20 pm
shawnc22 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:10 am
There's really no such thing as a profile 8 MEL, since the EL doesn't exist in profile 8. The support is likely just for the single layer profile 5 and 8 test mkvs that Mike created. There are no methods available currently to create any profile 5 or 8 mkvs. If this is the extent of the zidoo's dv playback capability, then it doesn't bode well for playing back uhd disc rips.
Its probably just a typo. Profile 7 with MEL works just fine on the Zidoo, though.
I think you are very active in Zidoo forums ( I have seen your username there ), do you actually own the unit? What are your thoughts about it in terms of DV support?
Yes, I own the unit. It's too early to tell as DV is still new for both, Zidoo and Realtek. Having said that, they added DV mkv pretty soon so I'm optimistic.
For mkv profile 5, 7 MEL and 8 are supported right now.
If you want to know anything specific let me know.
Re: Official Dolby Vision MKV spec support
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:41 am
by shawnc22
Meister_Proper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:39 am
Yes, I own the unit. It's too early to tell as DV is still new for both, Zidoo and Realtek. Having said that, they added DV mkv pretty soon so I'm optimistic.
For mkv profile 5, 7 MEL and 8 are supported right now.
If you want to know anything specific let me know.
Do you happen to have a UHD Bluray player or an LG Oled TV to do some playback comparisons of an MEL title? Mostly just interested to see if there are any color issues on the Zidoo.