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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:11 pm
by ragico
@Yusesope
Your "test" file plays in both shield and ugoos am6+ and triggers DV.
In Firestick black screen.
Tried BL only from Doctor Sleep and in Firestick it triggers HDR10+, so it is not possible to compare this DV film between shield (known problems) and firestick.
We need a Mel conversion that triggers DV in firestick.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:11 pm
by RESET_9999
lexyz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:03 pm
Thx again.
Is it possible to make captures with streamed p5 content samples? Like, let's say, Mandalorian.
Only hope with more attention to this issue nvidia will have to fix it one day.
yes, I asked him about that. He's in the USA, so he can compare Vudu x700 as well.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:13 pm
by ragico
@RESET_999
Thank you.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:16 pm
by RESET_9999
ragico wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:13 pm
@RESET_999
Thank you.
you're welcome. Credit goes to @Manixx2020beyound for the vertex 2 captures.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:41 pm
by SamuriHL
I just watched Skyfall last night on the SHIELD and I concur with the red push everywhere. The SHIELD just doesn't want to play nice.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:56 pm
by lexyz
I can remember this shield defect in Aquaman or Valerian
It should be, but could be hard to spot by naked eye
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:00 pm
by SamuriHL
It's one of those "once you see it it can't be unseen" kind of things.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:32 pm
by bobbymkV
SamuriHL wrote:I just watched Skyfall last night on the SHIELD and I concur with the red push everywhere. The SHIELD just doesn't want to play nice.
Do people still have faith that Nvidia will get this figured out eventually? I really want to sell off my OPPO and combine my libraries....
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:35 pm
by SamuriHL
Truly unknown. We're not sure exactly what the issue is that's causing it. It's very possible the SHIELD just doesn't support decoding the parts of the DV spec that UHD is using. In which case, nope, it'll never get fixed. It's designed to play streaming DV content which is encoded differently than UHD DV content. All we can do is keep reporting it to them until they tell us to go away.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:12 pm
by PlatypusW
SamuriHL wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:35 pm
Truly unknown. We're not sure exactly what the issue is that's causing it. It's very possible the SHIELD just doesn't support decoding the parts of the DV spec that UHD is using. In which case, nope, it'll never get fixed. It's designed to play streaming DV content which is encoded differently than UHD DV content. All we can do is keep reporting it to them until they tell us to go away.
Would comparing UHD DV to a streamed DV counter part help? I mean if the streamed DV counter part looks correct then I agree we have no chance of this getting fixed.
Or is it not that simple and comparing some streamed content to say the X700 not really help? That said, I’m struggling to think of a title we could even use too
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:19 pm
by RESET_9999
PlatypusW wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:12 pm
Would comparing UHD DV to a streamed DV counter part help? I mean if the streamed DV counter part looks correct then I agree we have no chance of this getting fixed.
Or is it not that simple and comparing some streamed content to say the X700 not really help? That said, I’m struggling to think of a title we could even use too
I already did that comparison. the streamed content doesn't have the red push issue.
https://slow.pics/c/TYFydU4s
But the fact that the Firestick TV is able to play UHD-BD rip properly is encouraging. I believe Nvidia can fix that issue.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:23 pm
by SamuriHL
PlatypusW wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:12 pm
SamuriHL wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:35 pm
Truly unknown. We're not sure exactly what the issue is that's causing it. It's very possible the SHIELD just doesn't support decoding the parts of the DV spec that UHD is using. In which case, nope, it'll never get fixed. It's designed to play streaming DV content which is encoded differently than UHD DV content. All we can do is keep reporting it to them until they tell us to go away.
Would comparing UHD DV to a streamed DV counter part help? I mean if the streamed DV counter part looks correct then I agree we have no chance of this getting fixed.
Or is it not that simple and comparing some streamed content to say the X700 not really help? That said, I’m struggling to think of a title we could even use too
RESET_9999 did a lot of these kinds of comparisons and the issue is absolutely there on UHD sources but not for streaming. I can confirm the same with my own equipment. My x700 is in the other room on my 3D plasma so I've not done any comparisons with it, but, I do have my UB820 to compare to and there is a difference. The SHIELD just can't play these UHD sources without red push issues.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:45 pm
by SamuriHL
I've not played on the firestick yet but that requires FEL->MEL conversion. Once that process gets nailed down by you adventurous people, maybe Mike can add an option to do so in MakeMKV to make it seamless.
I should try a couple of my MEL movies with plex on the firestick and see how that goes. That'd be nice.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:01 pm
by shawnc22
Is the firestick only capable of LLDV? Is that why it was used or was it a TV limitation? It's really too bad that the firestick can't handle lossless audio. That's more of a deal breaker for me than the seemingly better DV implementation.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:15 pm
by SamuriHL
shawnc22 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:01 pm
Is the firestick only capable of LLDV? Is that why it was used or was it a TV limitation? It's really too bad that the firestick can't handle lossless audio. That's more of a deal breaker for me than the seemingly better DV implementation.
Wait it can't do lossless audio?? Yea, ok, that's a deal breaker for me as well. Damn. (You can tell how much I've used my firestick LOL)