Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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thinredline
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Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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Good morning.
I have a problem playing/ripping this disc.
I have mentioned in another thread this:
I have bought a UHD (Dirty Dancing) 3-4 times, all from different territories (USA, UK, Australia). I guess it's the same disc, that my player doesn't feel friendly towards it.
It freezes and pixelates at the exact same spot, with MPC.
With VLC it doesn't do that, but it presents a couple of audio dropouts at that spot.
I've tried other players, none plays it correctly, except Leawo.
But then again, I cannot seem to be able to play it with the correct colors in Leawo.
So, I'm trying to make a back up of the disc in my hard drive, to see if I can play it without problems. But, unfortunately it fails.
Here's what it says:
Image
You can see what drive I have.
Actually, I changed the drive, but I bought the same model with the one I had at first, and which also couldn't play the disc properly.

So, can I do anything?
I guess with another drive my disc would play correctly?
(It can't be that all 4 copies have the same problem at the exact same spot)
I'd appreciate any help.
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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thinredline wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 5:05 am
Good morning.
I have a problem playing/ripping this disc.
I have mentioned in another thread this:
I have bought a UHD (Dirty Dancing) 3-4 times, all from different territories (USA, UK, Australia). I guess it's the same disc, that my player doesn't feel friendly towards it.
It freezes and pixelates at the exact same spot, with MPC.
With VLC it doesn't do that, but it presents a couple of audio dropouts at that spot.
I've tried other players, none plays it correctly, except Leawo.
But then again, I cannot seem to be able to play it with the correct colors in Leawo.
So, I'm trying to make a back up of the disc in my hard drive, to see if I can play it without problems. But, unfortunately it fails.
Here's what it says:
Image
You can see what drive I have.
Actually, I changed the drive, but I bought the same model with the one I had at first, and which also couldn't play the disc properly.

So, can I do anything?
I guess with another drive my disc would play correctly?
(It can't be that all 4 copies have the same problem at the exact same spot)
I'd appreciate any help.
Clean the disc before trying again. It doesn't matter if it is brand new and/or looks pristine, give it a clean!
Cheers :D
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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MartyMcNuts wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:19 am
Clean the disc before trying again. It doesn't matter if it is brand new and/or looks pristine, give it a clean!
Of course, I have done this. Numerous times! :(
By the way, I'm just using VSO inspector and after a while it finds errors reading the various sectors.
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thinredline wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:23 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:19 am
Clean the disc before trying again. It doesn't matter if it is brand new and/or looks pristine, give it a clean!
Of course, I have done this. Numerous times! :(
By the way, I'm just using VSO inspector and after a while it finds errors reading the various sectors.
Do you have another drive you can try the disc with? As silly as it sounds, sometimes a drive just doesn't like a certain disc. Yes, it happens! This is why the majority of us have multiple drives. Personally, I have 5 drives, although I generally only use 2 of them.
Cheers :D
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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MartyMcNuts wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:59 am

Do you have another drive you can try the disc with? As silly as it sounds, sometimes a drive just doesn't like a certain disc. Yes, it happens! This is why the majority of us have multiple drives. Personally, I have 5 drives, although I generally only use 2 of them.
I'm afraid not.
The disc presented the errors with 2 drives that I have used, but both were the same model (LG-BU40N).
I guess I should buy another model?
What is an external UHD friendly drive for pc that is recommended, that it doesn't present many errors?
I could buy one from here:
https://shop.uhdfriendlydrives.co.uk/
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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thinredline wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 8:05 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:59 am

Do you have another drive you can try the disc with? As silly as it sounds, sometimes a drive just doesn't like a certain disc. Yes, it happens! This is why the majority of us have multiple drives. Personally, I have 5 drives, although I generally only use 2 of them.
I'm afraid not.
The disc presented the errors with 2 drives that I have used, but both were the same model (LG-BU40N).
I guess I should buy another model?
What is an external UHD friendly drive for pc that is recommended, that it doesn't present many errors?
I could buy one from here:
https://shop.uhdfriendlydrives.co.uk/
Pioneer's are the best. Far superior to any other brand.
Cheers :D
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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MartyMcNuts wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:41 am
Pioneer's are the best. Far superior to any other brand.
Thank you!
By the way, something happened that I cannot believe!
I downloaded a full copy of the UHD to check it.
It does the same thing, pixelating at the exact same spots!
So, it's not my drive? It's my pc's fault?
Maybe I should try it with a laptop I got?
I cannot understand it!

edit: Well, i tried with the laptop. Same thing.
What does this mean?
Only Leawo player plays it smoothly, but I have the problem with the colors there (It doesn't support HDR as they told me).
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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My old computer (from 2017) can barely play a UHD rip. If there's anything running in the background, playback will be affected.

Are you trying to do playback on an old or underpowered computer?
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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dcoke22 wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:43 pm
My old computer (from 2017) can barely play a UHD rip. If there's anything running in the background, playback will be affected.

Are you trying to do playback on an old or underpowered computer?
Nope!
I have 160 UHDs and all play perfectly.
It's the first one that presents these problems.

I think there is something wrong with the file structure of this particular disc.
When I don't use AnyDVD with MPC (I don't usually have to use AnyDVD), the film goes to another spot, at the exact same spot that I was experiencing the pixelation. And then it returns. (if you know what I mean)
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OK, it seems by searching, I'm finding things.
I talked with a person that had ripped the disc, and he told me that the disc has the protection called "screen pass".
Here is more about it:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=21505

The thing is now:
I chose the correct playlist to play, and I have AnyDVD in the background.
The pixelation is gone, but I have audio sync problems!
Isn't there any way to play this disc on the fly? :(

The thing that I'm doing now is ripping the correct playlist, and see how that goes.
And another question:
Do we have a list anywhere with the UHDs that have this particular protection?
So that I may not buy any of them. It's a pain to be able to play them!
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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thinredline wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 6:30 pm
OK, it seems by searching, I'm finding things.
I talked with a person that had ripped the disc, and he told me that the disc has the protection called "screen pass".
Here is more about it:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=21505

The thing is now:
I chose the correct playlist to play, and I have AnyDVD in the background.
The pixelation is gone, but I have audio sync problems!
Isn't there any way to play this disc on the fly? :(

The thing that I'm doing now is ripping the correct playlist, and see how that goes.
And another question:
Do we have a list anywhere with the UHDs that have this particular protection?
So that I may not buy any of them. It's a pain to be able to play them!
It is best not to play any UHD discs directly. You will wear out your drive's laser fast! Better off ripping the complete disc to a decrypted folder backup and playing that.

There are a few BD/UHD discs with Screenpass. It is nothing new. Knives Out is one that comes to mind.
Cheers :D
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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MartyMcNuts wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:56 pm

It is best not to play any UHD discs directly. You will wear out your drive's laser fast! Better off ripping the complete disc to a decrypted folder backup and playing that.

There are a few BD/UHD discs with Screenpass. It is nothing new. Knives Out is one that comes to mind.
Well, I wouldn't like having to do that, ripping the disc to my hard drive that is.
I don't have infinite space.
Also, I haven't found a way to rip the complete disc. I just found the correct playlist, and made a mkv of just the film, that seems to play correctly at the moment. (just browsed it a bit)
I hear Lionsgate UHDs mostly have this kind of protection.
I hope Basic Instinct UHD doesn't have it, because I have that, I haven't opened it yet...

edit: By the way, when I used makemkv, even by using the correct playlist, I couldn't rip the movie. It presented me with read errors!
The way in which I ripped it is this:
I used DGDemuxGUI to rip the appropriate tracks, and then mkvtoolnix-gui to join them.
The resulting file seems to play well, I will watch the complete movie today.
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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thinredline wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:03 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:56 pm

It is best not to play any UHD discs directly. You will wear out your drive's laser fast! Better off ripping the complete disc to a decrypted folder backup and playing that.

There are a few BD/UHD discs with Screenpass. It is nothing new. Knives Out is one that comes to mind.
Well, I wouldn't like having to do that, ripping the disc to my hard drive that is.
I don't have infinite space.
Also, I haven't found a way to rip the complete disc. I just found the correct playlist, and made a mkv of just the film, that seems to play correctly at the moment. (just browsed it a bit)
I hear Lionsgate UHDs mostly have this kind of protection.
I hope Basic Instinct UHD doesn't have it, because I have that, I haven't opened it yet...

edit: By the way, when I used makemkv, even by using the correct playlist, I couldn't rip the movie. It presented me with read errors!
The way in which I ripped it is this:
I used DGDemuxGUI to rip the appropriate tracks, and then mkvtoolnix-gui to join them.
The resulting file seems to play well, I will watch the complete movie today.
MakeMKV's folder backup option is the 2nd button at the top. Looks like a folder with an arrow. Click it, then check the decrypt box that pops up and choose the location for the backup.
Cheers :D
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Re: Dirty Dancing - Can't backup!

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MartyMcNuts wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 3:36 am

MakeMKV's folder backup option is the 2nd button at the top. Looks like a folder with an arrow. Click it, then check the decrypt box that pops up and choose the location for the backup.
I know. I meant it also presents read errors and I cannot rip it.
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