Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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chros
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6976 Post by chros » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:56 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:38 pm
Baer2021 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:30 pm
Is this only an issue with player-led Dolby Vision? Can the C2 perform TV-led Dolby Vision while still using the x700 to avoid the issues with L1?
those video are TV-led

it's also an issue with LLDV and it's actually a lot worse because not even L2 works with player-led TV.

see: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/offici ... t-61830407
Your Mutli_pattern_dv_p8 sample looks weird on Plex, but OK on Oppo :) (take a look at the bottom, clipping, conversion)

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6977 Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:02 pm

chros wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:56 pm
Your Mutli_pattern_dv_p8 sample looks weird on Plex, but OK on Oppo :) (take a look at the bottom, clipping, conversion)
yep, I noticed that too. It behaves a bit like the Shield but not as bad.

But Quietvoid found out that the BL luma is messed up in the original spears pattern. It's also encoded with incorrect static metadata.
If we fix the BL luma, no more clipping/conversion error at the bottom on the shield and C2, so I'm not sure this pattern is actually helpful

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6978 Post by chros » Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:14 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:02 pm
chros wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:56 pm
Your Mutli_pattern_dv_p8 sample looks weird on Plex, but OK on Oppo :) (take a look at the bottom, clipping, conversion)
yep, I noticed that too. It behaves a bit like the Shield but not as bad.

But Quietvoid found out that the BL luma is messed up in the original spears pattern. It's also encoded with incorrect static metadata.
If we fix the BL luma, no more clipping/conversion error at the bottom on the shield and C2, so I'm not sure this pattern is actually helpful
Thanks, good to know, didn't know it had issues (Spears messed up so many things with that disc, and it's used for benchmarking :)).
Then let's try out this one, Seq Dovi 16mps (profile 5), form le labo dejay, it has similar pattern in the beginning:
https://lelabodejay.com/category/sequences-4kuhd-hdr

Off: good thing is that 2022 models has pretty good Hdr10, even in PC mode! What a turnaround... :)

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6979 Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:32 pm

chros wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:14 pm
Thanks, good to know, didn't know it had issues (Spears messed up so many things with that disc, and it's used for benchmarking :)).
Then let's try out this one, Seq Dovi 16mps (profile 5), form le labo dejay, it has similar pattern in the beginning:
https://lelabodejay.com/category/sequences-4kuhd-hdr
Off: good thing is that 2022 models has pretty good Hdr10, even in PC mode! What a turnaround... :)
I tried that pattern the first week I got my Tv and didn't see anything wrong with it.
Regardless of the issue with cmv2.9 hdmi device, I think the 2022 LG oled are amazing TV at least for HDR. I don't watch SDR stuff on it.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6980 Post by Baer2021 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:53 am

This new DV incompatibility with newer TVs might be the final straw for me with Dolby Vision haha. Seems just far too easy for me to just convert all my BDMV folder rip of DV films to HDR10 and call it a day.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6981 Post by Donpoku » Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:36 am

Thank you @RESET_999 This is a huge revelation. Anyone know how to contact Dolby lab about this issue, maybe they can update old players to cm4.0?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6982 Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:52 pm

Donpoku wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:36 am
maybe they can update old players to cm4.0?
I don't think they can do that but I'm sure they can fix the issue via a firmware update on the newer TVs.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6983 Post by sergonnn111 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:09 pm

Hello guys please help me can i do MKV dolby vision file from BDMV dolby vision file and then throuhg ts muxer TS dolby vision file for lg oled e8 native player ?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6984 Post by sofakng » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:25 pm

Regarding the L1 bug that was recently discovered, does this affect all movies?

Do all movies use L1 information? If not, can I check if a movie contains it?

Does this only affect newer UHD/DV movies?

I'm struggling to find a good way to play FEL movies now...
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6985 Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:27 pm

sofakng wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:25 pm
Regarding the L1 bug that was recently discovered, does this affect all movies?

Do all movies use L1 information? If not, can I check if a movie contains it?

I'm struggling to find a good way to play FEL movies now...
viewtopic.php?p=124752#p124752

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6986 Post by sofakng » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:30 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:27 pm
viewtopic.php?p=124752#p124752
Thanks ... I've read that but I'm confused especially regarding the Oppo 203. This player was regarded as the best (ie. "reference quality") but nobody has noticed this bug for years? (and no reviewer mentioned this problem when testing, etc?)

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6987 Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:36 pm

sofakng wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:30 pm
Thanks ... I've read that but I'm confused especially regarding the Oppo 203. This player was regarded as the best (ie. "reference quality") but nobody has noticed this bug for years? (and no reviewer mentioned this problem when testing, etc?)
well, the bug only affects the newer TV, and quietvoid's pattern is quite recent and without it, it can be hard to spot.
I heard a lot of people with CX/C1 saying that they find the quality much better using the internal TV player. Now it makes more sense than ever.

Also, the DV engine is a black box to the player. So its not oppo,sony's fault

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6988 Post by sw5163 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:12 am

Donpoku wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:36 am
maybe they can update old players to cm4.0?
Dolby can do that, it's only a matter of whether they want to.
There's no way for Apple to prepare hardware for 5 years ago iPad to do cmv4.0.
In fact, I think they can let any device that is capable of decoding 2 hevc tracks at same time be able to display FEL through software update.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6989 Post by sw5163 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:27 am

Does anyone know if there is a better way to hybrid RPU to BL?
I'm trying to extract RPU from profile 5 ICtCp Pirates.of.the.Caribbean.2003 and hybrid that to Bluray BL to get unofficial MEL.
The only problem is RPU in P5 is like 0.5s ahead of the Bluray. But P5 is actually slightly longer than Bluray.
So is there a better way to find out how many RPUs I should exactly duplicate at the begining instead of try again and again? Many thanks.
By the way, there is no DV Bluray for this series right? I couldn't find any on rar*g.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#6990 Post by deadchip12 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:59 am

Could someone explain in layman term how this new L1 bug affects the picture quality?I read the last few pages but don't quite get it. I'm using the recently purchased x700 with the lg c9 oled and it sucks if it turns out the x700 is unusable again.

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