yes most 4K movies top out at 100mbps some go to 140mbps usb 2.0 is 480mbpsRESET_9999 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:13 pmUSB 2.0 only but it's more than enough speed..... I watched tons of DV movie on the x700 and never experienced any problem. Gemini Man 60fps included. Some longer movies cannot be Fast Forward but not a big issue to me.
I bought a Shield on day 1 because I wanted Atmos (lossy) support on Netflix, Disney. Plus back then, I had no idea what fel or mel was. Also, I really like Movies Anywhere app (close quality to bluray) and hate Apple.
Turns out, the lack of frame-rate-match annoys me enough to still use my x700 for Netflix lol . tried the beta app but it caused occasional stutter. So I only use my shield for MA... PC can't play DV.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Hi,
players x700 and x800 supports 24p hdmi output for Dolby Vision files ?
players x700 and x800 supports 24p hdmi output for Dolby Vision files ?
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yes the x700 supports 23.976 and 24 hz..
it doesn't support 25hz.
Sorry for my English.
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Like I said don’t have the equipment to try it and I’m not on the fab forums so I don’t know what devices it’s working on.shawnc22 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:58 amYeah that's my impression of how it worked as well. I saw the demonstration video and thought it looked promising, but my Spanish is elementary at best so I didn't read too much into the thread on people's actual experiences.DaMacFunkin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:18 amHi, I followed that thread last year just as they was testing and teasing with it, (that is the site I bought the unit through) but most users have been disappointed with it so I never gave it a go, the way I understand it is you browse the library on an external device and then ‘fling’ it to the Chinoppo which is neither here nor there to me.
It’s no biggy I was hoping for the holy grail of total integration and that Yuescope or somebody else had found a way to wrap Dual Stream into a format devices could decode fully.
Off topic: latest releases of DVD fab claim to mixing TrueHD into mp4 AND achieving playback via e-arc.
I don’t have an AVR capable of e-arc or the money for a Diva, anybody been able to try this? Is this where Youscope and others that where originally working on this project disappeared too, working for DVDfab?
As for TrueHD and mp4, even if DVDFab is able do it, you're still missing a device that can properly decode both DL DV and TrueHD. Even though the non-X generation LG OLEDS can play DL DV, its internal player cannot decode TrueHD so having eARC is moot there. Maybe the Oppo can do it, but I don't know how much better this is than just playing the full folder backups.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
My system includes:
1) HTPC - with Plex Client
2) Shield 2019 Pro - with Plex Client
3) X700 - with 16GB USB drive
4) LG CX77 - with Plex Client
5) Denon 2020 AVR
I very much like the look and feel of the Shield System, so that is my preferred method of streaming. With these options available to me and the limitations of the CX, what would you recommend as:
a) the overall best quality video performance from an original ISO file? Using what piece of hardware? (Which Yuseope method?)
b) the best "version" of video for use on the Shield? (FEL to MEL? Which Yuseope method?)
c) TV-Led vs Shield LLTV (how does one invoke this option on the Shield or on the LG?)
1) HTPC - with Plex Client
2) Shield 2019 Pro - with Plex Client
3) X700 - with 16GB USB drive
4) LG CX77 - with Plex Client
5) Denon 2020 AVR
I very much like the look and feel of the Shield System, so that is my preferred method of streaming. With these options available to me and the limitations of the CX, what would you recommend as:
a) the overall best quality video performance from an original ISO file? Using what piece of hardware? (Which Yuseope method?)
b) the best "version" of video for use on the Shield? (FEL to MEL? Which Yuseope method?)
c) TV-Led vs Shield LLTV (how does one invoke this option on the Shield or on the LG?)
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
sow dolby vision won from mkv? it's failed?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
a) Use the x700. Extract out the BL & EL from the main video of the iso and mux with latest nightly of tsmuxer. No yusecope's tool needed.kws53 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:20 pmMy system includes:
1) HTPC - with Plex Client
2) Shield 2019 Pro - with Plex Client
3) X700 - with 16GB USB drive
4) LG CX77 - with Plex Client
5) Denon 2020 AVR
I very much like the look and feel of the Shield System, so that is my preferred method of streaming. With these options available to me and the limitations of the CX, what would you recommend as:
a) the overall best quality video performance from an original ISO file? Using what piece of hardware? (Which Yuseope method?)
b) the best "version" of video for use on the Shield? (FEL to MEL? Which Yuseope method?)
c) TV-Led vs Shield LLTV (how does one invoke this option on the Shield or on the LG?)
b) Rip with makemkv 1.15.4 and done, no conversions needed. FEL will play, but EL is ignored.
c) You cannot control this unless you have an HDFury or another EDID spoofer. Your playback chain will always result in TV-Led DV.
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a) No problem, thanksshawnc22 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:03 pm
a) Use the x700. Extract out the BL & EL from the main video of the iso and mux with latest nightly of tsmuxer. No yusecope's tool needed.
b) Rip with makemkv 1.15.4 and done, no conversions needed. FEL will play, but EL is ignored.
c) You cannot control this unless you have an HDFury or another EDID spoofer. Your playback chain will always result in TV-Led DV.
b) Is this equivalent to GAMMA? I don't use MakeMKV.
It will be interesting to see differences in the output between a) and b).
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
kws53 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:22 pma) No problem, thanksshawnc22 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:03 pm
a) Use the x700. Extract out the BL & EL from the main video of the iso and mux with latest nightly of tsmuxer. No yusecope's tool needed.
b) Rip with makemkv 1.15.4 and done, no conversions needed. FEL will play, but EL is ignored.
c) You cannot control this unless you have an HDFury or another EDID spoofer. Your playback chain will always result in TV-Led DV.
b) Is this equivalent to GAMMA? I don't use MakeMKV. If so, this is what I currently do for the Shield.
It will be interesting to see differences in the output between a) and b).
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Do you know if someone has already done a comparison between the BluRay and a m2ts remux to make sure the picture is actually identical (for FEL content)?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:55 pmyep, the x700 can output any lossless audio format + Dolby Vision FEL. Subtitles also work. Cinavia free as welldeadchip12 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:34 pmAh yeah I saw your signature![]()
What is you audio setup? Dolby atmos? Is the x700 able to output dolby atmos to the receiver while playing m2ts dolby vision files?
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Yes i did some comparisons a while ago, and it is identical. The x700 is a 1:1 DV playback device.whatsmyname wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:25 pmDo you know if someone has already done a comparison between the BluRay and a m2ts remux to make sure the picture is actually identical (for FEL content)?
here's one that i kept:
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/10487
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Not sure what GAMMA spits out, but at this stage, yusecope's tool is not needed for playback on the Shield. Just rip with makemkv and call it a day; it's the best result you'll get with the Shield. Comparisons between a) and b) have been done extensively by @RESET_9999 and @Manixx2000, and they show the Shield's picture inaccuracies.kws53 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:22 pma) No problem, thanksshawnc22 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:03 pm
a) Use the x700. Extract out the BL & EL from the main video of the iso and mux with latest nightly of tsmuxer. No yusecope's tool needed.
b) Rip with makemkv 1.15.4 and done, no conversions needed. FEL will play, but EL is ignored.
c) You cannot control this unless you have an HDFury or another EDID spoofer. Your playback chain will always result in TV-Led DV.
b) Is this equivalent to GAMMA? I don't use MakeMKV.
It will be interesting to see differences in the output between a) and b).
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I have been checking out some BluRay players, specifically the Panasonic UB820, The sony X700, X800M2 and X1100. In most reviews it says the UB820 has the best PQ for Dolby Vision but it has subpar support for playing back ripped BDs. Do the Sonys have as good network streaming support (of Bluray files) like for say Kodi or Plex does (without the dolby vision bugs/issues, full support MEL & FEL and TV-Led playback)?
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All the bluray players have the same DV SDK so they all output the same quality.XTrojan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:13 amI have been checking out some BluRay players, specifically the Panasonic UB820, The sony X700, X800M2 and X1100. In most reviews it says the UB820 has the best PQ for Dolby Vision but it has subpar support for playing back ripped BDs. Do the Sonys have as good network streaming support (of Bluray files) like for say Kodi or Plex does (without the dolby vision bugs/issues, full support MEL & FEL and TV-Led playback)?
Yes the Sony support tv-led, FEL, MEL... No DV color issues. All of this has been answered in the past few days. you guys should read the thread a bit instead of repeating the same questions over and over
Network playback(DLNA, no plex) works too but it's not fast enough for high bitrate movies.
Sorry for my English.
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Any idea why longer movies can't be fast forwarded?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:13 pmUSB 2.0 only but it's more than enough speed..... I watched tons of DV movie on the x700 and never experienced any problem. Gemini Man 60fps included. Some longer movies cannot be Fast Forward but not a big issue to me.deadchip12 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:23 amI have a few more questions:
-what is the usb port on the x700? Is it usb 3.0? For high bitrate movies, is there any problem (e.g. stuttering, freezing) playing the dolby vision m2ts file straight from the external hdd connected to the x700? Gemini Man in 4k 60fps dolby vision is an example. That file stutters like hell on my c9, but probably that's because the c9's chip is not powerful enough, not because of the usb speed.
-why do you need the Shield when you have a powerful pc and the x700 that can play everything I wonder?
I bought a Shield on day 1 because I wanted Atmos (lossy) support on Netflix, Disney. Plus back then, I had no idea what fel or mel was. Also, I really like Movies Anywhere app (close quality to bluray) and hate Apple.
Turns out, the lack of frame-rate-match annoys me enough to still use my x700 for Netflix lol . tried the beta app but it caused occasional stutter. So I only use my shield for MA... PC can't play DV.