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Question about subtitles
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:06 pm
by Charlie97l
So. I just ripped my entire bluray collection, and something went wrong somewhere.
For most movies, it won't be an issue, but I noticed on Iron Man that while I can turn the English subs on and off, as I wanted, the translation subs are missing, for when other characters are speaking another language. I've done some research, and see that these are sometimes forced subs.
My question is, can I go back in and rip just the subtitle tracks again, and then add those into my existing mkv? Or do I have to rip the whole thing again?
Thank you! Love this program!
Re: Question about subtitles
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:15 am
by bw001
Easiest is to re-rip the disc. MakeMKV should default to ripping the forced subtitles.
Iron Man has a separate track for forced subtitles, so you could end up with 2 tracks that have the same forced subtitles, if you have English subtitles checked along with English (forced only) sub check box.
Iron Man forced subtitles commence at 00:28:11, btw.
I rip a disc and have all English subtitle boxes checked, including (forced only).
I can then see when the MakeMKV rip is complete if there were or weren't any forced (flagged as forced on the disc) subtitle tracks since MakeMKV will note that.
I then use MediaInfo to check how many subtitle tracks are in the rip.
I then use MKVCleaver to extract all of the subtitle tracks.
I then use bdsup2sub to view the subtitles and determine which are English, English SDH, Commentary, and/or forced.
I can then re-rip from disc with exactly what I want and set the forced flags, if necessary and make note for future reference which tracks are which.
It's a long and complicated process, but it's the only one I've been able to come up with that ensures I have the forced subtitles and they're flagged as forced, so that they're displayed correctly the first time I watch a movie.
Re: Question about subtitles
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:53 am
by Chetwood
Mine is a bit less complicated:
- rip BD with all English and German subs (including forced)
- play back MKV cycling through subs. If there's a stream where people are talking and nothing is displayed, it's most likely the forced sub
- set flag accordingly with MKVToolnix's header editor (if not already done by MakeMKV)
Re: Question about subtitles
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:51 pm
by doncht
set flag accordingly with MKVToolnix's header editor (if not already done by MakeMKV)
I think that's the missing piece here since I always skip that.
Re: Question about subtitles
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:03 pm
by Charlie97l
Thanks! That worked very well!
Any tips for DVDs with forced subs as well?
I'm ripping all the english subs, but sometimes they're not working, though there's not a "forced" section.
District 9 I noticed didn't work properly.
Re: Question about subtitles
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:47 am
by Woodstock
DVDs usually have two tracks per language, "full" and "forced". Not all do - a few vendors decide you either want subtitles or your don't, and only provide the "full" track.