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Should I avoid inserting newer blurays in my drive?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:30 pm
by ezzieyguywuf
I bought a new pioneer bluray drive recently. I have yet to insert a bluray disc into it. I'm aware that inserting "newer" discs will update smths smthn on the drive firmware that may (?) prevent me from reading discs.

Is there something I should do before inserting any bluray discs into my drive?

Re: Should I avoid inserting newer blurays in my drive?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:26 pm
by MrPenguin
ezzieyguywuf wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:30 pm
I bought a new pioneer bluray drive recently. I have yet to insert a bluray disc into it. I'm aware that inserting "newer" discs will update smths smthn on the drive firmware that may (?) prevent me from reading discs.

Is there something I should do before inserting any bluray discs into my drive?
What is your first disk? If we knew that, we could possibly determine which version MKB it uses, and so work out which revocation lists would be written into your new drive's flash memory. Once set, these revocation lists would only be changed by inserting a disk that uses a higher version MKB.

I would not recommend inserting a disk that uses MKBv82 into your drive just yet, because MKBv82 will revoke every publicly-known AACSv1 host certificate. This matters if you want to use libaacs and KEYDB.cfg to read/play standard BluRay disks.

Re: Should I avoid inserting newer blurays in my drive?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:23 am
by ezzieyguywuf
My First disk is Ted Lasso The Richmond Way, it contains seasons 1-3

Re: Should I avoid inserting newer blurays in my drive?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:30 am
by Billycar11
if its a libredrive pioneer no need to worry
even without that a makemkv update usually comes pretty fast for new aacs versions

Re: Should I avoid inserting newer blurays in my drive?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:40 pm
by MrPenguin
ezzieyguywuf wrote:
Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:23 am
My First disk is Ted Lasso The Richmond Way, it contains seasons 1-3
According to KEYDB, all of the known "Ted Lasso" disks use MKBv68. There are plenty of publicly-known AACSv1 device keys and host certificates that work with MKBv68, so I'd say that these are safe to insert ;).

Be aware that a BluRay drive by design remembers the revocation lists from the highest version MKB that it has ever read. A brand new Pioneer drive is also highly unlikely ever to support LibreDrive (unless you bought it from a reseller who advertises on this forum). Perhaps check its firmware date? It would need to pre-date 2022-12 for LibreDrive to work.

Re: Should I avoid inserting newer blurays in my drive?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 5:40 pm
by flojo
MrPenguin wrote:
Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:40 pm
A brand new Pioneer drive is also highly unlikely ever to support LibreDrive ...
Is hardware modification out? I imagine there's places in the SoC's that are unreachable externally, but is that the case with these drives? I know anything is possible but I'm not going to use teeny-tiny drill bits to drill into silicon or whatever extreme physical approach.