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A few questions re 4k ripping

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:26 am
by RobTi
Just starting my 4k rips and possibly some stupid questions I have internet switched on
1,Does my player update automatically (worried that I lose functionality)
2. Are 4k rips direct copies (Dolby Atmos, Dolby vision,HDR10+ )
3. I keep seeing posts about key files how would I know that these are needed does makemkv pop up a notification?
Thanks

Re: A few questions re 4k ripping

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:17 pm
by Nucleus
RobTi wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:26 am
Just starting my 4k rips and possibly some stupid questions I have internet switched on
1,Does my player update automatically (worried that I lose functionality)
2. Are 4k rips direct copies (Dolby Atmos, Dolby vision,HDR10+ )
3. I keep seeing posts about key files how would I know that these are needed does makemkv pop up a notification?
Thanks
01. Don't understand, player update? What player?

02. Yes dependant on which audio/subtitle streams you choose to include in the rip - it's known as a REMUX = mux the original streams into a new .mkv, no encoding or modification has been applied = REMUX. MKVToolnix is the program(s) used for muxing/manipulating .mkv files (multiplexing). There's tons of posts on the forum regarding DV but this thread may be the most relevant about MakeMKV preserving DV - Dolby Vision. May be a good idea to skip to the latter pages as the thread is 113 pages long! :o

03. So long as you have "Expert Mode" and "Enable Internet Access" enabled in Preferences/General, MakeMKV will correctly identify the majority of discs, if it can't it will generate a .tgz file (dump file) which ppl then submit so the relevant key can be added to the database. You'll see where ppl submit these files for unrecognised UHD discs (I'd guess mostly newly released titles) in the UHD Discs sub form.

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Re: A few questions re 4k ripping

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:55 am
by RobTi
thanks for the help i read all you posted, re no1 about updating, i have a Verbatim Blu-Ray DVD-Drive 43888 and as its all working fine i seen posts about upgrading the firm ware and wondered if this was automatic or you had to manually flash it ?

Re: A few questions re 4k ripping

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:31 am
by Nucleus
RobTi wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:55 am
thanks for the help i read all you posted, re no1 about updating, i have a Verbatim Blu-Ray DVD-Drive 43888 and as its all working fine i seen posts about upgrading the firm ware and wondered if this was automatic or you had to manually flash it ?
I'm not up on the flashing stuff, what can be/can't be flashed to become UHD friendly, various firmwares etc. Maybe you could post that specific question in the UHD Drives sub forum and one of the folks who know that stuff will assist you.

Re: A few questions re 4k ripping

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:03 am
by Coopervid
RobTi wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:55 am
thanks for the help i read all you posted, re no1 about updating, i have a Verbatim Blu-Ray DVD-Drive 43888 and as its all working fine i seen posts about upgrading the firm ware and wondered if this was automatic or you had to manually flash it ?
NEVER flash a Pioneer drive that works with Makemkv!!!! Fortunately there is no crippled firmware for your drive.

Re: A few questions re 4k ripping

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:10 pm
by RobTi
Coopervid wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:03 am
RobTi wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:55 am
thanks for the help i read all you posted, re no1 about updating, i have a Verbatim Blu-Ray DVD-Drive 43888 and as its all working fine i seen posts about upgrading the firm ware and wondered if this was automatic or you had to manually flash it ?
NEVER flash a Pioneer drive that works with Makemkv!!!! Fortunately there is no crippled firmware for your drive.
no i just wondered if this was automatic update as i used to have to disable/ block internet for certain programs years back to stop them updating

Re: A few questions re 4k ripping

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:02 pm
by Coopervid
No, no automatic updates. However, for their newer drives Pioneer stated some bogus scary stuff to motivate people to update their drives:

"Added a new function "Damage Prevention mode for music CD" "

This is complete BS and if you update the drives will not work anymore with ripping software like Makemkv for UHDs.