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Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:53 pm
by weilerhot99
I have v1.17.2 for Windows - all registered. I went to install v.1.17.3 for windows today and had the following from Bitdefender.

The file ...\wincdarb_inst.exe is infected with Gen:variant.Graftor.591808 and was moved to quarantine.

Does anyone know if this is a false positive?

Thanks/

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:51 pm
by Ezatoka
Hmm the whole setup file doesn't have much of a problem on VirusTotal:
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/cc6 ... 1675405471

here is the wincdarb_inst.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/043 ... 1675433956

and here the wincdarb_inst64.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/8a2 ... 1675438035

Personally I would suspect a false positive, as why should the 32bit version have something bad, but the 64bit version not? But that's just my opinion.

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:04 pm
by weilerhot99
Any views on how to move forward?

15 vendors find something of interest with the 32 but version, but the hope is it’s a false positive.

Do we wait for malware vendors to catch up and recognise it’s a fp, or is it actually a concern?

Not sure what to do, but my personality is risk averse, so I’ll stay on current version for now.

Thanks

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:23 am
by dcoke22
Did you download 1.17.3 from makemkv.com? Did you verify the SHA256 hash?

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:55 am
by mike admin
I've even added an explicit comment at vt - https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/043 ... /community. The file itself is 13 kilobytes, it is a 32-bit service installer - literally, it calls few windows APIs and exits. You can't pack much malware in 13 kilobytes, seriously.

After getting the alert I've double-checked the file and compared the hashes. The above VT link is for file that I've uploaded from the clean build machine.
And, as mentioned above, this file is open-source GPL with full source code available at https://www.makemkv.com/download/wincdarb/ .
Not to mention, that this file never executes on 64-bit system.

Absolute nonsense. At least, I'm not alone:
https://github.com/mailhog/MailHog/issues/154
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... 2f93c9dd3f
https://www.reddit.com/r/antivirus/comm ... acatacbml/

The file is attached to this message, see for yourself if you have the skill. Literally, one page of code in disassembler...

p.s. All these detections are based on machine learning. Robots are killing us, people.

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:59 am
by rhw168
I downloaded the wincdarbinst.zip file and ran Microsoft Defender Offline scan on the zip file.
And it came out clean: "3 files scanned, 0 threats found."

So the warning from Microsoft Defender (reported in viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30183):

Microsoft Defender SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk.
App: Setup_MakeMKV_v1.17.3.exe
Publisher: Unknown publisher

Has gotta be a false-positive warning.

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:36 pm
by weilerhot99
Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate the comprehensive reply.

I don’t have the smarts to look at the code! Wish I did.

Thanks again/

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:14 pm
by Knight
I have version 1.17.1.
I went to install the latest version, at the moment that appeared the part of choosing the place where I was going to install my Bitdefender antivirus informed that it was disinfecting, I closed the installation wizard immediately. I tried to find in the Bitdefender notifications something about virus, but there was nothing.
I scanned the files in Virustotal and this is what I got:

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/cc6 ... /detection

PS: I have already confirmed the SHA256 hash

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:30 am
by mike admin
Knight wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:14 pm
my Bitdefender antivirus informed that it was disinfecting
The file in question that is reported by bitdefender is actually not used on 64-bit systems (most of the systems today). So even if it "disinfects" that file, the installation will continue without an error on 64-bit system.

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:44 pm
by Knight
mike admin wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:30 am
Knight wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:14 pm
my Bitdefender antivirus informed that it was disinfecting
The file in question that is reported by bitdefender is actually not used on 64-bit systems (most of the systems today). So even if it "disinfects" that file, the installation will continue without an error on 64-bit system.
I understand, but I specifically downloaded the 64-bit version.
It didn't show the name of the supposed virus, unlike the colleague who opened the post, mine just reported that my computer was being disinfected.
The strange thing is that on the VIRUSTOTAL site only one Russian antivirus accuses the 64-bit version of having viruses, the most renowned antiviruses don't accuse anything, including Bitdefender.

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 5:54 pm
by Ezatoka
Knight wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:44 pm
I understand, but I specifically downloaded the 64-bit version
At least for Windows the setup file is always both:
MakeMKV 1.17.3 for Windows
Requires Windows XP or later, x86 or x64.

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:29 pm
by weilerhot99
Just an observation.

When rerunning the virus total links from the second post, the number of providers indicating a concern (for the 32 bit file) has dropped from 15 to 9. Bitdefender (my scanner) has gone from +ve to not detecting any issues now.

Seems like the virus total site can adapt as it learns more.

Re: Bitdefender Gen:Variant:Graftor.591808

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:01 am
by Knight
Ezatoka wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 5:54 pm
Knight wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:44 pm
I understand, but I specifically downloaded the 64-bit version
At least for Windows the setup file is always both:
MakeMKV 1.17.3 for Windows
Requires Windows XP or later, x86 or x64.
That's right, my mistake, sorry.