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Subtitle (in MKV video) does not show when ripped from a Non-Full Backup

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:28 pm
by redwine
Hello,

I normally have 2 backups of my Bluray, (one is Full with Menu, another one is Main(s) without Menu).
(Org disc quality sucks after 10yrs, unlike my Pana/TY media)

I notice that if i will to rip MKV from the BackUp (Mains without Menu),
The subtitle, while available for selection, will not show.
Tried VLC-2, VLC-3 & MPC, all same result (sub will not show).
When i load this mkv into MkvToolNix, the sub clearly is available in the Header.

If i ripped MKV from the Full Backup, no problem at all.

Anyone face this issue before ?


Thanks

Re: Subtitle (in MKV video) does not show when ripped from a Non-Full Backup

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:49 pm
by Ezatoka
Which tool are you using to strip the BluRay from the menu and unwanted video tracks? From what I read here I would assume, MakeMKV doesn't see connections to the subs no longer after the modification, but that's just a guess.

Ultimately there is no problem at least for you, when you have two images anyway and always can choose the full backup. Though I do not understand why keeping the BluRay folder structure at all, if you remove menu and everything and only keep the main movie. Just make a MKV from the main movie, that seems easier in my eyes.

Re: Subtitle (in MKV video) does not show when ripped from a Non-Full Backup

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:10 pm
by redwine
Hello,

My backups was done long ago before i knew of MakeMKV.
I believe the Mains Backup are mostly rip using DvdFab6~8 or CloneBD (for the more recent one).
I verified both backups will leads to the same issue, regardless if created by DvdFab or CloneBD

Curious to know exactyly where is the problem. :D

Most of my iso on my HDD are Main Backup (they load faster).
Will be troublesome to re-copy them from my Backup.


Rgds

Re: Subtitle (in MKV video) does not show when ripped from a Non-Full Backup

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:41 pm
by redwine
Just to add-on,

Those Main Backups (without Menu),
When "Play by Disc", the Subtitles works as expected on VLC or PowerDvd.
Would be quite 'rare' to have both DvdFab & CloneBD causing the same issue.

This Subtitle issue also affect 4K Bluray.

So the common denominator seems to be MakeMkv1.16.7 for now.


Rgds

Re: Subtitle (in MKV video) does not show when ripped from a Non-Full Backup

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:08 am
by mike admin
Please do a test dump of the same title form a "full" and "menu only" backup, and send both per instructions at https://www.makemkv.com/onlinehelp/testdump.html

Re: Subtitle (in MKV video) does not show when ripped from a Non-Full Backup

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:37 pm
by redwine
TestDump sent ... Thanks !