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subtitle doesn't work, build 722 & build 778
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:42 pm
by Jalum
for Builds 722 and 778,
Subtitle doesn't seem to work when I make a mkv from Blu-ray source. I have tried few different Blu-Ray titles.
Here is the error from VLC player.
No suitable decoder module:
VLC does not support the audio or video format "undf". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
No suitable decoder module:
VLC does not support the audio or video format "undf". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
Re: subtitle doesn't work, build 722 & build 778
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:32 pm
by Jalum
is this a known problem or something new?
Re: subtitle doesn't work, build 722 & build 778
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm
by jketch
I've been having this issue with VLC as well. Actually, the videos in general tend to be flaky on VLC. They work on Windows Media Player with CCCP codec pack, but subtitle support has always been bad in WMP so I'm not sure if its a problem with the files or not, mkvmerge recognizes the subtitle tracks as there, so I assume the mkv file itself is working, just that most players lack support for the subtitles at this stage.
Re: subtitle doesn't work, build 722 & build 778
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:59 pm
by Jalum
I use MPClassic... I just tried VLC player to make sure that the error was consistent.
I use beta 6 of FFDShow tryout and latest version of Hali Media Splitter.
The subtitle works with DVD rips made from makemkv but subtitle doesn't work with any of the blu-ray rips. Both Media Player Classic and VLC player.
Hope that helps.
PS I'm trying to rip some Japanese Anime with original dialog and English subtitle.
Re: subtitle doesn't work, build 722 & build 778
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:30 am
by TopGun2010
No subtitle on Popcorn Hour A-110 and VLC.
Re: subtitle doesn't work, build 722 & build 778
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:19 am
by mike admin
Subtitles on blu-ray discs are encoded in PGS format. Currently this format is almost unsupported by players - it is sort of chiken and egg problem. Some time from now players will support it. PGS format can't be converted to any other common format like VOBSUB - PGS subtitles use 256 color pictures and VOBSUB has only 4 colors. Unfortunately there is no option but wait.
Re: subtitle doesn't work, build 722 & build 778
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:38 pm
by Jalum
Thank you for the explanation. That clears it up. Hopefully, FFDShow, VLC or Media Player Classic will support it soon.
Re: subtitle doesn't work, build 722 & build 778
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:49 am
by TopGun2010
Mike, thanks!
Re: subtitle doesn't work, build 722 & build 778
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:56 pm
by dandirk
There are ways to convert Blu-ray PGS (.sup) subtitles...
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277&page=4
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=142819
Though most of these solutions are essentially for text type subtitles (foreign lang speaking etc)... Some movies like Don't Mess with the Zohan use the advanced PGS subtitle function for onscreen graphics in various locations on the screen (aka profiles on people when he uses his spy glasses). In these cases the current solutions don't work that well because when converted to text based subs, the location on screen is changed to standard subtitle location aka bottom of screen.