The true reason MakeMKV warns us that AnyDVD is enabled?

[Sidrack]

First of all, let me warn you this Blu-ray disc was decrypted using AnyDVD-HD, but AnyDVD is never enabled here when I see this warning.

Second, I have tested a few decrypted folders (from other Blu-ray discs and different companies) and this message usually appears not when there's something wrong with the decrypted files. In fact, there is NOTHING WRONG with them.

Third, let me quote you an example of movie with this issue: Predator 2 (1990).

This movie has a DTS-HD MA 5.1 and DD 2.0 track for the movie. And also, 2 Audio commentary tracks.

However my copy doesn't have a DD 2.0 track, but portuguese instead. It's a disc from Brazil. This is not an isolated case, I have seen this problem happening several times with discs from US and other regions as well.

I have seen this happening when the disc has a certain number of audio/subtitle tracks and/or when the disc is authored in a different way.

For the record, I have used these softwares to perform my tests:

TotalMedia Theatre 5 from Arcsoft, to open the BDMV folder;

tsMuxerGUI, freeware, available here:
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR

When this problem happens, we might proceed with MakeMKV, however I have seen (and again, in more than a single case) the program crashing (freezing) after at least 50% it's completed. So we are advised to not proceed.

Analysing this particular disc in MakeMKV (going forward), I saw this data (note: I have opened the index.bdmv file):





As you can see, the movie is listed twice. In the second time, you will see additional japanese subtitles, that are not available to be selected in the other "title". By the way, this movie has no additional versions or angles.

Now we are going to use TMT from Arcsoft.

But wait: if we select any other language (rather than JAPANESE) for the menus, we will only see those first options from MakeMKV. If we select (in TMT settings) the JAPANESE language, we will see these additional languages (3 JPN).

And now, let's open the 00013.m2ts file (33 GB) from the BDMV folder, using tSMuxerGUI:





Now, using TMT with Japanese language for menus (while watching the movie):

Subtitles > Japanese
Subtitles > English
Subtitles > Japanese
Subtitles > Japanese
Subtitles > Japanese

English/(or any other language) for menus (while watching the movie):

Subtitles > English
Subtitles > Portuguese
Subtitles > Portuguese
Subtitles > Chinese
Subtitles > Korean
Subtitles > Korean
Subtitles > Korean
Subtitles > Spanish
Subtitles > Spanish
Subtitles > Chinese
Subtitles > Thai
Subtitles > Thai

Now using Media Player Classic-Home Cinema, to open the 00013.m2ts file (33 GB) from the BDMV folder:



AS you can see, the whole thing is scrambled.

But I have identified, using MPC, what are the subtitles available for the whole thing.

Movie = It has english and portuguese subtitles. The second portuguese subtitle is Text-only, which means that kind of subtitle that is only used for 4, 5 scenes even if the movie has 2 hours. So, we have 3 subtitles that I want here. The rest (in other languages) is exactly this: Movie and movie-text-only.

Audio commentaries: there are 2, however the only language they are available is japanese/korean.

1st Audio commentary = korean subtitle 2
1st Audio commentary = japanese subtitle 2
2nd Audio commentary = korean subtitle 3
2nd Audio commentary = japanese subtitle 3

How do I know this? It's simple, switching subtitles using MPC or even TMT.

And apparently, TsMuxer's second subtitle (PGS, Chinese) is the english one, since it is not listing English.

I am explaining all this, in order to help you (in case you are not aware about everything I explained) how to identify this issue. I wonder if this method of authoring Blu-ray discs is responsible for confusing MakeMKV and sending this warning to us. I don't like using TsMuxer for this, and it would be great if MakeMKV let us unselect the second title's video from that list.

I would have to convert to Matroska this movie twice to extract the japanese subtitles.

[crowfax]

The reason MakeMKV warns you about AnyDVD is that in the past it has caused MakeMKV to fail when opening discs. The reason you get the warning about AnyDVD running when looking at the decrypted folder is because MakeMKV can see the AnyDVD markers in the folder.

[Sidrack]

So the whole thing is just AnyDVD messing around with the decrypted files? These rips are not exactly new, they are 2 years old.

What happens if you lose the original disc after something like this? Your only choice is to use TsMuxer?

I am mentioning TsMuxer because I was able to demux these contents (from the 30 GB m2ts file) to my Hard Drive and use this software:
http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/

To join them. However, if I didn't knew about this, there would be no way to handle these folders as they are now. I even considered the files were corrupted.

Do you recommend using MakeMKV to open the original discs (DVDs or Blu-rays) when we are decrypting for the first time? Will it work?

[crowfax]

Do you recommend using MakeMKV to open the original discs (DVDs or Blu-rays) when we are decrypting for the first time? Will it work?

Yes, of course it works.

[mike admin]

So the whole thing is just AnyDVD messing around with the decrypted files? These rips are not exactly new, they are 2 years old.

To say the truth, you shouldn't see any issues even with this warning. There were several bugs in AnyDVD that caused MakeMKV (and other software) to fail, but these are fixed long ago. Also, MakeMKV can detect these bugs along with AnyDVD marks and apply workarounds, so even if you have a disc image or files decrypted by old version of AnyDVD, it should work.
Still, MakeMKV should decrypt data faster, and when you submit a bug report then we would like that the source is decrypted by another program, so this warning will stay.

[Sidrack]

So the whole thing is just AnyDVD messing around with the decrypted files? These rips are not exactly new, they are 2 years old.

To say the truth, you shouldn't see any issues even with this warning. There were several bugs in AnyDVD that caused MakeMKV (and other software) to fail, but these are fixed long ago. Also, MakeMKV can detect these bugs along with AnyDVD marks and apply workarounds, so even if you have a disc image or files decrypted by old version of AnyDVD, it should work.
Still, MakeMKV should decrypt data faster, and when you submit a bug report then we would like that the source is decrypted by another program, so this warning will stay.

I have tested a bunch of decrypted files from the disc 2 (Casino Royale, 2006). After 10-15 minutes, MakeMKV stopped responding and I was unable to see MakeMKV screen after that (it's always locked, so you might be waiting forever), so I had to use control+alt+del to terminate the process.

However, I also noticed before that happens that MakeMKV was saying that one of the files was corrupted and was attempting a workaround. I don't recall exactly in what file this issue above happened, but look at what I said here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1 ... count=1324 (it seems not even TSMuxer could demux one of the m2ts files properly - at least when I attempted to merge them into a Matroska file, a warning was given to me by MKVToolnix)

This file had no more than 3 GB, and only one audio stream, plus some subtitle languages (about 5 or 6).

BTW, despite this warning I mentioned in Doom9, I am watching the video with no apparent problems, so I guess it's fine.

To say the truth, you shouldn't see any issues even with this warning.

I know, usually it seems the case, but for some reason, when I attempt to decrypt all files at once, I always end up with MakeMKV waiting forever to complete the Matroska conversions and I am forced to terminate the process. I would advise to try each title with MakeMKV (unselecting the rest) and if sucessfull, continue with the next one. At least to identify which m2ts is causing the problem. But that would present a problem (it would take considerable time) when you are dealing with a disc full of extra features, not just the movie.

[Sidrack]

In case there's any doubt:

Original m2ts file:



MakeMKV stops responding (I was able to take a picture from that moment):



A Matroska file from half the size of the m2ts (movie) is created:



And stops there. The decrypted folder is 2 years old, from September 2009. Perhaps the way I decrypted is making MakeMKV crash after a while.

Next time I am only going to use TSMuxer, if I see this warning. Because it might work for a few m2ts/smaller files, but clearly it's not going to work for larger ones polluted by the AnyDVD garbage.

Maybe this issue is resolved now, perhaps SlySoft fixed their software, but it's not working with some titles I have tested. In this case, it's from a external Hard Drive.