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same drive, different OS, different AACS support levels?

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:16 pm
by brakeb
1st machine: Lenovo yoga X1 with windows 10
Paid MakeMKV installed version: 1.15.3


2nd machine: Macmini 2014 with 10.15.7 installed
Paid MakeMKV installed version: 1.15.3


blu-ray drive: (Samsung) BD-RE TSSTCorp BDDVDW SE-506CB TS01


On the MacMini: highest AACS version: 31

On the Lenovo: Highest AACS version: 62(!)

This means that discs I'm trying to make backups of on one machine will not work on another... what's the issue here?

Re: same drive, different OS, different AACS support levels?

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:55 pm
by wmcclain
I believe "highest AACS version" is the highest version the drive has seen. It gets updated with new discs.

Re: same drive, different OS, different AACS support levels?

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:08 am
by d00zah
I believe "highest AACS version" is the highest version a MakeMKV user has seen.

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Re: same drive, different OS, different AACS support levels?

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:31 pm
by brakeb
But the drive has 'seen' several discs at AACS 62 on the windows host, shouldn't transfer to the OSX also show AACS 62?

Also, that same drive fails to rip discs on the OSX that rip fine on Windows. Just throws up 'fatal error' and dies.

So I guess I'll just use both bluray drives on one machine at the same time. Probably more efficient anyway.

Re: same drive, different OS, different AACS support levels?

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:47 pm
by Woodstock
The "highest seen" is stored on the local machine, not on the drive.

What the drive stores is the revocation information from a disk, and that is loaded before MakeMKV can actually see it.

Re: same drive, different OS, different AACS support levels?

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:54 pm
by d00zah
brakeb wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:31 pm
But the drive has 'seen' several discs at AACS 62 on the windows host, shouldn't transfer to the OSX also show AACS 62?
Images above demonstrate that that data is stored at the PC user level, NOT by the drive. Even a different user on the same PC could see a different "highest AACS version" reported.

Re: same drive, different OS, different AACS support levels?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:23 am
by brakeb
okay, that makes sense. I'll have to do some additional troubleshooting as to why the same disc that will rip on the windows machine won't rip (and show errors) on the OSX version.

Thanks for the information.

Re: same drive, different OS, different AACS support levels?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:56 am
by dcoke22
It is hard to tell from the poor images I found on the internet, but it seems like that drive is only USB powered? One of your computers might be feeding it more power over USB than the other. Are you using a USB hub or plugging it directly into the computer?