Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

[NutFlush920]

My AnyDVD HD 7.4.4.0 shows 00778.mpls as the correct playlist also.

[Wondercow]

Thank you so much for the explanation!

No problem; glad to help.

So, if I can watch the movie in the right sequence, then I chose the right playlist right?

Probably, but see below.

Am I right in assuming that there is no difference in audio or video quality between the playlists?

Usually the "extra" playlists are just a re-ordering of the regular scenes—this means no loss of quality since they're built from the actually movies pieces, just shuffled. However, it's certainly possible that the disc authors could use left over space for lower-quality clips.

[CrapShark]

The UK version seems to be different again.

I bought the Blu Ray / DVD / Ultravoilet version of The Hunger Games Catching Fire.

I did a complete backup with MakeMKV and then went through and matched up the segments visually against the retail disc playing.

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Order   Segment Duration    Start Time
1       503     00:05:57    00:00:00
2       505     00:00:43    00:05:57
3       514     00:02:15    00:06:40
4       509     00:00:20    00:08:55
5       506     00:05:02    00:09:15
6       504     00:00:23    00:14:17
7       512     00:01:31    00:14:40
8       507     00:00:36    00:16:11
9       501     00:00:49    00:16:47
10      502     00:29:42    00:17:36
11      515     00:00:50    00:47:18
12      513     00:00:57    00:48:08
13      508     00:15:01    00:49:05
14      510     00:00:26    01:04:06
15      511     01:21:35    01:04:32
                02:26:07    02:26:07

This segment order only matched one playlist 00699, which was title 114 for me.

I gotta say obscuring which title is the movie is a pretty petty form of DRM. I waste a couple of hours figuring it out, so it hardly seems like it's really stopping anyone. Just makes it more unpleasant for genuine customers who want to rip these discs to there own media server.

Disposable9, you are my new hero! My daughter was given the same disk (UK BD/DVD/Ultraviolet) two days ago, just as you were posting your solution.

I've spent an hour trawling the web, but all the posts are from the wrong side of the pond. I too have a 00699 playlist with exactly that segment map. Oddly it's title 113, not 114, but perhaps I'm running a slightly different minimum title length (120s) to you.

I'm ripping it now. Thank you again!

[tribble]

The UK version seems to be different again.

I bought the Blu Ray / DVD / Ultravoilet version of The Hunger Games Catching Fire.

I did a complete backup with MakeMKV and then went through and matched up the segments visually against the retail disc playing.

Code: Select all

Order   Segment Duration    Start Time
1       503     00:05:57    00:00:00
2       505     00:00:43    00:05:57
3       514     00:02:15    00:06:40
4       509     00:00:20    00:08:55
5       506     00:05:02    00:09:15
6       504     00:00:23    00:14:17
7       512     00:01:31    00:14:40
8       507     00:00:36    00:16:11
9       501     00:00:49    00:16:47
10      502     00:29:42    00:17:36
11      515     00:00:50    00:47:18
12      513     00:00:57    00:48:08
13      508     00:15:01    00:49:05
14      510     00:00:26    01:04:06
15      511     01:21:35    01:04:32
                02:26:07    02:26:07

This segment order only matched one playlist 00699, which was title 114 for me.

I gotta say obscuring which title is the movie is a pretty petty form of DRM. I waste a couple of hours figuring it out, so it hardly seems like it's really stopping anyone. Just makes it more unpleasant for genuine customers who want to rip these discs to there own media server.

I purchased the blu-ray/dvd/uv edition from Sainsbury's here in the UK and have a title 114 with mpls and segment map that match those you list. It ripped fine but I haven't watched it yet so fingers-crossed! Hopefully the segment numbering doesn't change across BRs, that would be an extra step of annoyance…

[BrionS]

For what it's worth, I have the Best Buy retail version (Blu-Ray + DVD + Digital HD UV) and MakeMKV (in linux) is telling me that 861.mpls is the primary title.

I will rip this and check it out later. If it turns out incorrect, then perhaps I'll take the time to go through the full segment mapping as described above. The time duration is consistent with everyone else though - 2:26:14 and the segment map: 511,515,507,512,504,514,513,502,503,505,506,510,508,509,501

[mquraish]

On the Netflix DVD - I ripped all 5 titles that were large enough to be the actual movie. At first glance, all but title #3 do not have the correct length (runtime 146 minutes) or opening scene. Hope this helps

[glazunov2]

In UK and have been through laborious (but free) process of finding correct playlist on UK Blu-ray. They have created a series of dummy playlists on the disc to discourage ripping.

Correct playlist is:
0699.mpls

Order of segments:
503
505
514
509
506
504
512
507
501
502
515
513
508
510
511

But I'm guessing this is probably only for this disc!

[glazunov2]

Sorry - steps for the above were:

Rip the disc to HD (using Backup setting) in MakeMKV.
Open package contents (I'm on a mac) and then look through STREAM folder.
Copy over anything in there that looked like actual movie footage (all the 500s)
Watch them in turn in VLC and number them off in order (took AGES )
Note down from original STREAM folder on disc what the original files were called, using cross referenced file sizes (no duplicate sizes, thank goodness...)
Went through all the many playlists that come up on MakeMKV and finally found that one that had the required order (again, )
Set only that playlist to rip on MakeMKV
Converted that one to HD M4V using Handbrake (again, free)
Used subler to tag
Inserted into iTunes
Now 5.1 movie playable on Apple TV and transferrable to all Apple devices...

Worth the time? Maybe - at least I don't have iTunes DRM... And I still have the disc!

[Mondays]

Netflix BD:

AnyDVD:

Total size: 12085504 sectors (23604 MBytes)
Video Blu-ray label: CATCHING_FIRE
Media is AACS protected!
Drive supports bus encryption!
AACS MKB version 44
Removed AACS copy protection!
Note: automatic detection of region code not possible with this disc.
Java BD protection good playlists: 461
Blu-ray Java signatures fixed!
BD-Live deactivated!
Sony structural BD-J protection removed!
Removed annoying video sequences!
Removed UOPs!

Makemkv:

Title information
Name: The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Source file name: 00461.mpls
Duration: 2:26:14
Chapters count: 16
Size: 20.8 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 505,514,517,507,506,511,516,509,510,503,508,515,512,513,502

Easy as pie if you have both programs.

[kfreeb]

Here's what I found for UPC 0-31398-18152-1 (e.g., BD+DVD+Digital HD Combo package.

I bought it off of Ebay, brand new. After ripping & encoding this title, I watched all the way through. All the segments were in the correct order.

My MKV software shows this:

Name: The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (English)
Source File name: 00795.mpls
Duration: 2:26:14
Chapters count: 16
Size 29.0 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 511,512,515,507,504,513,514,503,502,505,506,510,508,509,501
File name: The_Hunger_Games_Catching_Fire_t127.mkv

[nathan]

UK Lovefilm/amazon

Source file: 808 mpls

Segment order: 501 514 516 502 510 503 504 506 511 517 515 505 508 509 507

[bottleneck70]

Canada

Order Segment Duration Start Time
1 509 00:05:57 00:00:00
2 501 00:00:43 00:05:57
3 511 00:02:15 00:06:40
4 513 00:00:20 00:08:55
5 502 00:05:02 00:09:15
6 514 00:00:23 00:14:17
7 510 00:01:31 00:14:40
8 512 00:00:36 00:16:11
9 507 00:00:49 00:16:47
10 515 00:29:42 00:17:36
11 504 00:00:50 00:47:18
12 505 00:00:57 00:48:08
13 503 00:15:01 00:49:05
14 506 00:00:26 01:04:06
15 513 01:21:35 01:04:32
02:26:07 02:26:07

Thanks Disposable9 for the time codes!

This segment order only matched one playlist 00904.

[chowder]

UK Lovefilm/amazon

Source file: 808 mpls

Segment order: 501 514 516 502 510 503 504 506 511 517 515 505 508 509 507

Thanks

Ripping now, I'll post back to confirm.

[chowder]

UK Lovefilm/amazon

Source file: 808 mpls

Segment order: 501 514 516 502 510 503 504 506 511 517 515 505 508 509 507

Thanks

Ripping now, I'll post back to confirm.

I can confirm the above, 808 is correct for the discs Lovefilm/Amazon UK send out. Thanks Nathan.

[dannyboy48888]

The following has worked for me and is under windows. Yuo will need the following:

OpenedFilesView: Free (ask Google, made by Nir Sofer)
A bluray player: Free usually with drive-$60 (used arcsoft TMT6)
BDInfo:-free
MakeMKV: Free-$50 (worth the cash folks!!)

1)Run OpenFilesView and set the refresh interval to 1sec and apply a search for m2ts filter

2)Open TMT6 and navigate to the menu and select the title you want

3) in OpenfilesView watch for the open M2TS name and note it

4) forward around 8x (just forward, not chapter mode as each chapter may have multiple M2TS files) and note each change in M2TS file that is opened as this is the order they are played in. If you observe the % file read gauge you can speed up and slow down the forward speed as seen fit, but may result in a missed segmet.

5) In BDInfo Scan The disc and then look at the MPLS listings. Note the one that has the correct M2TS files order as this is the title.
6) In MakeMKV Pick the title that corresponds to the MPLS you picked in BDinfo. You can use it to look at the mpls list in MakeMKV but sometimes it goes 511,1,505,508,503,3,510 which makes it harder to pick the correct title (and it's just a double check).

This method has proven more accurate at least for me as it reduces the odds of bad sections that are the same time and documents the same order the Software is playing it in. As always crtique welcome and results may vary....Tested on Hunger Games 1 and 2 on a windows 7 box without anyDVD running. VM MACHINES WILL NOT WORK and will cause TMT6 and PowerDVD to exit