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dtblair
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Streaming

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I recently sold my OPPO BDP-83 on the premise I would get the new 93 prelease. Uh, no. It's not a prerelease, it's a way for OPPO to get free beta testing for only $499 a crack. It's definitely not ready for primetime. Anyway, I have been fooling around with the streaming capability of MakeMKV as a way to play rentals on my PC. I am trying a TMT 5 trial which works fine but I'm not sure I need it if the streaming decrypts on the fly. I have had limited success using the streaming and VLC but often it just hangs. Using the feature with MPC-HC always hangs. Is the streaming feature like AnyDVD or DVDfab passkey in that it can be used to decrypt Blu-ray for playback? Am I doing something wrong? Anybody else use this feature? I'm using an I7 with Windows 7 so I should have plenty of processing power. Thanks.
dtblair
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Anyone? Can someone tell me how the streaming can be used?
skittle
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Re: Streaming

Post by skittle »

streaming starts a http server that presents an unencrypted .m2ts file (or vob for dvd).

You can access this list by navigating to: http://<computer ip address>:51000

For example on my subnet i would do
http://192.168.1.101:51000
or
if just accessing on my pc
http://localhost:51000

Then just play the URL with your favorite player
dtblair
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Re: Streaming

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skittle wrote:streaming starts a http server that presents an unencrypted .m2ts file (or vob for dvd).

You can access this list by navigating to: http://<computer ip address>:51000

For example on my subnet i would do
http://192.168.1.101:51000
or
if just accessing on my pc
http://localhost:51000

Then just play the URL with your favorite player
So the streaming only works on unencrypted discs, not an original blu-ray?
setarip_old
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Re: Streaming

Post by setarip_old »

@dtblair

Hi!
So the streaming only works on unencrypted discs, not an original blu-ray?
No, that's not the case, if I remember correctly.

The "sweet thing" about the specific server provided by MakeMKV is that it decrypts "on the fly"...



skittle
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Yes it works on encrypted disks, thats the whole point! Its a cool feature because you can play the movie, from the disk, across your LAN on another device.
dtblair
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skittle wrote:Yes it works on encrypted disks, thats the whole point! Its a cool feature because you can play the movie, from the disk, across your LAN on another device.
OK, I've tried it with several different blu-rays and two different players (VLC and MPC-HC) with no success. It locks up the player. Can you tell me what you have used as a player? Maybe a specific blu-ray title I can try? Thanks
setarip_old
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Can you tell me what you have used as a player?
With the testing I did when "mike admin" first made this available, I successfully (although not always perfectly, if I recall) used VLC v.1.xxx...




skittle
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mplayer, vlc, mpc-hc (on windows) and my popcorn hour in another room all work.
dtblair
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Post by dtblair »

I got this to work across the network. In my tests I was trying to stream and render on the same PC which apparently can't be done. This was a way to view blu-rays on the same computer as the drive. Anyway, there does not seem to be any way to select the audio stream which makes it kinda useless. I was streaming The Natural and I always got the spanish audio even if it was not selected in the GUI. DVDFab's Passkey doesn't have this problem and can be viewed locally or across my LAN.
BitJam2
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Post by BitJam2 »

I stream and view on the same computer (I only have one). I am also able to select audio and subtitle channels. I use hardware acceleration on my graphics card to do the de-coding, otherwise my CPU sometimes has trouble keeping up. MakeMKV can also suck up a bunch of RAM because it does a lot of buffering to keep things smooth. With the command line program, makemkvcon, you can adjust the size of the buffer with the --cache option:

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       --cache=size
           Specifies size of read cache in megabytes used by MakeMKV. By default program
           uses huge amount of memory. About 128 MB is recommended for streaming and
           backup, 512MB for DVD conversion and 1024MB for Blu-ray conversion.
Streaming and viewing Blurays can take up a lot of system resources. Maybe you are running out of either available memory or available CPU cycles. I just bought an Nvidia card that does the decoding in the GPU for $20 after rebate. I'd also recommend that you have at least 2 Gig of RAM.

I'm able to use MPlayer, SMPlayer, VLC, and XBMC as clients to do the viewing. VLC has random seeking which is sweet but it sometimes has trouble keeping up on some Blurays. I tend to mostly use XBMC.
dtblair
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BitJam2 wrote: Streaming and viewing Blurays can take up a lot of system resources. Maybe you are running out of either available memory or available CPU cycles. I just bought an Nvidia card that does the decoding in the GPU for $20 after rebate. I'd also recommend that you have at least 2 Gig of RAM.

I'm able to use MPlayer, SMPlayer, VLC, and XBMC as clients to do the viewing. VLC has random seeking which is sweet but it sometimes has trouble keeping up on some Blurays. I tend to mostly use XBMC.
I have an I-7 w/ 4Gig Ram, 1 Gig HD5450 video card which doesn't choke on anything else. I have to use Windows 7 in order to get HD Audio. I haven't tried the command line approach, and am using MPC-HC for viewing. It doesn't give me any stream options when I try to view the blu-ray. I prefer MPC-HC but have been playing around with the XBMC. Unfortunately it doesn't support bitstreaming HD audio yet (I don't think VLC does either)
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