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I went back and read through the entire thread and a few others and the only thing I could find was some mention that sometimes the usb<->sata bridge might need an update before being able to read or update the FW on the micro itself. In this case the XD08U has a Fujitsu MB86C311B bridge w/ its own ...

I'm curious about how people are getting pioneer FW to submit as well. I picked up a XD08U because it was mentioned in the list in the first post, and it has a different dated 1.00 FW, the same one Kurtz mentioned a couple pages ago in this thread: Product: BD-RW BDR-XD08U Revision: 1.00 Firmware da...